POTNAS Podcast

EP.55 “Come To The Gym With Me”

September 04, 2023 POTNAS Podcast | @potnaspodcast Season 8 Episode 55
EP.55 “Come To The Gym With Me”
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EP.55 “Come To The Gym With Me”
Sep 04, 2023 Season 8 Episode 55
POTNAS Podcast | @potnaspodcast

The Potnas welcome and introduce fitness and nutrition enthusiast, Daniel Haskin (2:13)! In this episode's “Ice Breaker”, Daniel shares his past experiences and takeaways from his personal trainer days and dispels common myths about nutrition and fitness (8:41). In “News”, the boys discuss “touchy” fans at Drake's concert, Miguel hanging over a live crowd from his “back piercings” and Foot Locker’s declining shares (45:57). In “Highlight Topics”, the fellas share their thoughts and past experiences with body dysmorphia,  intermittent fasting,  fitness journey discipline and accountability, and current vices (1:07:17). You don’t want to miss a second of this gem-dropping episode from your favorite podcast!

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The Potnas welcome and introduce fitness and nutrition enthusiast, Daniel Haskin (2:13)! In this episode's “Ice Breaker”, Daniel shares his past experiences and takeaways from his personal trainer days and dispels common myths about nutrition and fitness (8:41). In “News”, the boys discuss “touchy” fans at Drake's concert, Miguel hanging over a live crowd from his “back piercings” and Foot Locker’s declining shares (45:57). In “Highlight Topics”, the fellas share their thoughts and past experiences with body dysmorphia,  intermittent fasting,  fitness journey discipline and accountability, and current vices (1:07:17). You don’t want to miss a second of this gem-dropping episode from your favorite podcast!

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Speaker 1:

You're now tuning in to the sounds of the podcast podcast. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, depending on where you're at on the globe. Welcome to episode 55 of the partners podcast. We're delivering our perspective on topics, news and shit. Welcome to the show, hey man. Alright, without further ado, go ahead and give it up for my right hand man, the man with the best vernacular out of everybody on the planet.

Speaker 2:

I like that better.

Speaker 1:

Alright, give it up for Dino aka the dictionary.

Speaker 2:

What's going on? Man give me some emails, give me some emails. Okay, there you go. I like them, there you go. First one is crazy.

Speaker 1:

And then I go by. A new name, a new term. Now Papa Tizzle, baby yeah baby. That sounds like a superman, papa Tizzle the live thristle baby.

Speaker 2:

Oh man, because I'm a daddy now.

Speaker 1:

Normally like a few people start calling me a certain nickname, you get you granted. You bless me with the name Tizzle, and then other people heard that and that's where I got. I became.

Speaker 2:

Tizzle.

Speaker 1:

And then I added a young before that. You know, try to make it a little bit slang, because that was when I was really good at freestyling. Was there ever a time you were just really?

Speaker 2:

good, though that was a jab, huh. No, I'm just trying to think, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Is the young interchangeable with Papa or is it young Papa?

Speaker 1:

Tizzle. Now I'm Papa, because I'm a daddy now, so it's interchangeable.

Speaker 2:

Young Papa, tizzle be crazy. Yeah, baby, she be wild.

Speaker 1:

Young Papa Tizzle, young Papa Tizzle.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that means I'm a 23 or a 25 year old walking around. Welcome young Papa. Tizzle Young Papa.

Speaker 1:

Tizzle, what the fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, ladies and gentlemen, enough of the partners that you hear every episode I want to go ahead and get ready for this great introduction of our very special guest today, ladies and gentlemen oh shit man.

Speaker 1:

You may know him as a member of Alpha Phi, alpha fraternity, incorporated Helding from the University of Texas at Austin. Hey, you might know him in the gym as a personal trainer, previous personal trainer. You may know him in the professional world in consulting and merge and acquisitions. But, ladies and gentlemen, god damn it Very here today we have very special guest, and here is Zandan Daniel Haskins.

Speaker 2:

Yo, did you give yourself a nickname, or was that like?

Speaker 3:

Nah, I actually uh Tarzan yeah, junior. Junior senior year, I think of college. I dressed up as Tarzan for Halloween.

Speaker 2:

I can see that being that, but that's crazy because I wouldn't just think to. But I could see that.

Speaker 3:

I guess if I mean the hair, yeah, it worked out.

Speaker 1:

The hair, the skin, the archetype or the build.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean. Your body, yeah, it's your body. Body Pause hey, I'm comfortable with my sexual rally.

Speaker 1:

Nick, like I don't even know, you know. Pause for that. Okay, now.

Speaker 2:

I'm just kidding, all right.

Speaker 1:

So, ladies and gentlemen, please give it up once again for our special guest, daniel Haskins, aka Tarzan Dan, that is his Instagram name. All right, like how we do follow our special guests we ask them three questions, where you from your occupation? From what?

Speaker 2:

you do and then how you connect to the partners.

Speaker 1:

So, without further ado, tarzan Dan, ladies and gentlemen, yeah, does he like?

Speaker 3:

that. That was actually a crazy introduction, man, you like that one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

The music was who wants to be a millionaire? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you remember that.

Speaker 1:

Perfect for sure.

Speaker 3:

It was Regis. Yeah, the OG one. But yeah, I'm Daniel. Grew up on the southwest side of Texas, what's up?

Speaker 2:

the world.

Speaker 3:

Shout out to those from the YY West they get it, so did so. I am in mergers and acquisitions consulting for a company called PwC. That's what I do for income. But a coin for you. What I really enjoy is like fitness nutrition big into anime. I don't know if you follow me on Instagram. Probably know that too.

Speaker 1:

What was that character that you dressed up as from Demon Slayer?

Speaker 3:

That was Akaza. He's an upper moon rank demon, yeah, upper moon.

Speaker 1:

Three From Demon Slayer. Ladies and gentlemen, did you read the manga too?

Speaker 3:

Actually, I didn't read the manga until this most recent season ended, but you read it though, but I read it right after that. I would suggest for most people, if you are into the anime, to hold off on reading the manga or just wait until the anime is complete, because they do an excellent job converting the manga into anime Most of them, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh man. We have so much to get into but the fact that you are an anime fan. I had asked both of these gentlemen to rock their best anime shirt.

Speaker 2:

We'll do it like an unofficial fit check.

Speaker 1:

But I had made the mistake. I don't normally do this, where I ask the guest something before I ask my co-host, but in this particular case I just assumed that Dino had an anime shirt, so I had asked you. I'm like, oh, you know what, because Daniel had, on the way here, was asking Well before he was on the way.

Speaker 2:

I don't wear everything I watch. He asked us what we were going to wear for today and I told him.

Speaker 1:

I'm, like you know, swag out, but I'm going to wear a shirt that you would appreciate.

Speaker 2:

Matter of fact, If you want to say a comment book or like just character, yeah, I'll be here, I'm not going to wear anything.

Speaker 1:

You could have asked me that before.

Speaker 2:

Nah, but I was already probably dressed.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm talking about Alright, well, anyways, but yeah, no, speaking of anime, yeah, we can get into a kind of like a little bit of an unofficial oh yeah, how you connected to the partners first before we get into that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we are connected through UT. Yeah, so you know.

Speaker 2:

Thank you for not playing the fight song just now.

Speaker 1:

But no, no, I'm not really offended of that.

Speaker 3:

I gotta say you asking us to wear anime shirt. That was, that was low key, a trap by what you showed me in your room, man, because this guy has the craziest anime gear.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's a collector.

Speaker 1:

Like he buys him.

Speaker 2:

Don't even wear him for real, he just be having them.

Speaker 1:

You know, that's actually one of my part of my segment that we're going to get into towards the end of the episode. I have a question for you all. That kind of speaks to one of the speaks to my collection, right.

Speaker 3:

I could probably speak on that for sure.

Speaker 1:

I think I know what you're going with that, yeah, yeah, but, as Daniel alluded to, I gave him a tour of the crib and what not, and we went back to our wardrobe closet and and I showed, yeah, the vault and and I showed him just some of the shirts that I haven't even debuted or put out in the public yet. But I'm a huge anime fan. I'm a huge fan of just graphic teas and comic book characters, as everybody may know, and I'm connected to a lot of different license apparel and freelance artists.

Speaker 2:

Oh wait for me like different different license merchandise stores. Like providers, like stores. Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you that, was aware that I was looking for it.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, I'm just a fan of not wearing the stuff that I'm into because I need.

Speaker 2:

I need to call you out. What do you mean? Just probably a week ago, stop gatekeeping because he's all these vendors provider merchandises, but homie would not say shit about like that's a cool shirt, and normally I'm not like that, but that's dope.

Speaker 1:

I feel like, if you're worthy, like, if you're at the tier like, if I feel like that you respect the craft, then that's when I will kind of let you in. I found one angle.

Speaker 3:

I found one of my own, but act like I know. Yeah, I work, oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2:

I like this shirt. I have a three shirt picked out with not, he just stopped gatekeeping, so you need y'all to fire him up with the car, let's get into icebreakers.

Speaker 1:

So when you were a personal trainer, Daniel like what was the most common issue or mistake that you witnessed.

Speaker 3:

like when you were having into that profession, like whenever you you picked up clients, like you always had to just coach them on something off the top of my head, I think, is because I would always try to introduce people to resistance training or actually lifting weights, versus just kind of like telling them to go run a certain mound or just do calisthenics. So obviously there's going to be newcomers going to have issues with form, so I don't think that's like a. I don't think that's exactly what you're getting at, though, but I think no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1:

We can elaborate on that because improper form is a very important thing. Proper form is, I would imagine, very common. Well, when I was in the military, like that's what I had to, I would be the first thing I would have to address percent, percent, percent.

Speaker 3:

I guess what I mean is like there are, there are some individuals or people that that want to get into the gym or want to start their fitness journey and are actually like serious or passionate about it, and they may have poor form too, but they're still, you know, either a lot more cultural, or I would consider them like more realistic or more like they're. They're, they're achieving their goals a little bit more realistic because they have the passion, or like they're a little bit yeah and they're a little bit more realistic about what to expect and they're more willing to, I guess, face uncomfortability, discomfort.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, adversity.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so yeah, the my biggest. The one thing I think I would have to like try to call on people is to like oh, here's a good analogy when you think of it like a GPS, right, right, if you want to get somewhere right, they have to know two points right, two locations Okay, where you coming from.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. Wait, wait, wait We'll say that again when you, where you want to go and where you coming from, and I will be more, more particular to even say where you currently are.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so a lot of people tend to be unrealistic about like their eating or sleeping habits when they first, you know, want to do personal trainings, like, oh well, like you know, I cook all the time, or I like I only eat you know X amount of times a day, and then once I tell somebody like okay, write down everything you eat for the next X amount of days, doesn't really line up with what they say. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, I think I have a problem with that. Out of the two, nutrition and fitness I definitely struggle more with nutrition. I can be consistent with working out. There's some days where it's really tough, so much what you eat, though, because I don't work out much.

Speaker 2:

I'm not as physically active I mean I am. I got two kids. I chase around constantly. Oh, that's your friend.

Speaker 2:

Pick them up Like I. Still, they are still daddy, absolutely. I think about this. I took his hurricane season. I don't be able to save their lives. Like two kids, a wife and a dog, I got to be able to swim with all of them on my back If this is going to go to hell. But like I'm not as physically actively seeking, you know, like exercise and the way that I used to lift and do all this I used to be a anyway, but I eat really good now, like I eat. I eat pretty clean. I do cook more often than not. When I do eat, I don't even how frequent, do you?

Speaker 2:

eat. Good question. So I didn't even know. So again, I'm from where I'm from. I didn't. I know what I know. I didn't, I hadn't heard the term intermittent. I came across the term intermittent fasting. That's a key one there because I was doing it, I didn't even know that was some shit, right, I was just, I just.

Speaker 2:

I love breakfast and brunch. It's my favorite type of food, but in the mornings I didn't have time to eat that shit when I was working in corporate America we were talking about, so I just didn't eat breakfast. Just by the fact, though, I didn't eat breakfast, but I always had coffee, and usually it wasn't super sweet because I had, I just had the company coffee we just had. They had this bullshit fake cream or shit. It was gross, so I just would drink that and I wouldn't eat again until like lunchtime Come to find out I was breaking fast.

Speaker 1:

This was intermittent fasting, I hadn't even noticed what I was doing. Coffee is suppressant of your appetite. It's an appetite suppressant.

Speaker 2:

Okay. So again I had no appetite. I got energy. You know what I'm saying. I was mad active in the morning, had no idea I was, I was doing this thing, and then one of my coworkers was like, oh yeah, I'm. Are you intermittent fasting Cause I I'm watching the morning? You just did it. I was like, oh shit, I had no idea that was a thing.

Speaker 1:

So do you believe, daniel or you can probably bust this myth that genetics has a lot to do with appetite, your cravings, and not necessarily like of course it? It's not. It's not Of course we are. We understand that it has to do with habits, but does genetics play a factor into how often you eat what you are attached to or addicted to?

Speaker 3:

100%. Yeah, all right. Yeah, I mean it's for confirming that it's cause it's not. It's not like like here we go that word duality here, right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But both genetics and your environment and your habits are going to have like an influence on nature versus nurture 100% and they both, both of those things exist, so they're both, are going to have an influence.

Speaker 3:

So, just the way, like somebody, if, if somebody experiences something traumatic, right, the loss of a loved one or whatever, they may take that and and like grow from it or you know, or continue to move on with their lives, other people could have a psychotic break. You know what I mean and that's that's part in due to whatever their brain chemistry is. Same thing is with your appetite. You know your physical features, traits, the same things that make some people grow more muscular and others more or less?

Speaker 3:

hairy, more or less, you know tall or short, slower, fast, everything like the same thing with your, your behaviors and dispositions.

Speaker 1:

I can get toned very fast in my arms, my chest and my legs, but my stomach, man, but I think, I think my stomach just is a reflection of what I eat, as well, you work that core, you work that core, oh yeah. Bro like like no, no other.

Speaker 3:

Like I can.

Speaker 1:

I think I can hang with Daniel, is, is, is what I can say about my core, but my core won't look like Daniel, because Daniel eats much better than I do, much cleaner than I do.

Speaker 2:

But you don't just eat like well, I don't know how you eat. Honestly, I don't imagine you just eat this bullshit all the time. I put like this I think they did have two cheesy-ass pizzas in there, right.

Speaker 1:

And the time that I eat too. I normally don't eat this late right, but it's only because, I didn't eat at like hardly anything earlier today as well, and it's pod day, right?

Speaker 1:

So there's, we did we days where I'll make the exception which actually leads me to a question that I want to ask later on, but I'll wait until we get to the highlight topic. But there was another thing that you had said earlier, daniel, in that last statement that you made about how it's tied to genetics and how it's tied to habits as well. I feel bad for women that enter motherhood. Oh yeah, that's what I told you the other day.

Speaker 1:

And then they. There's really no way for them to work out Like Sam, for example, like she's realistically not going to be able to consistently work out until Keiko is able to enter grade school, kindergarten, right? Because at that point she doesn't have to necessarily wake up as early, or no, there's ways to get it, though G there's, but it just it depends on what you got going for your schedule. How much does that mean to you?

Speaker 3:

And what do you have?

Speaker 2:

going on. How much does that mean to you? Where is that in a priority scale? Because, like I don't work out consistently, like I used to, either, bruh, I used to do all kinds of shit About boot camp exercises. Used to run mad miles, used to lift, used to do all this shit. I don't do any of that.

Speaker 1:

Well, you also don't have to breastfeed, you also don't have to prepare like meals.

Speaker 2:

No, but I'm saying like there's people who do that and who, but working out to them is a top pro. They were working out before they got pregnant, they worked out all throughout their pregnancy, they lifted throughout the and so like that's essentially part of their life. But you name, you name two parts.

Speaker 1:

You name two parts of life that didn't involve an actual physical child being here. And so when the child gets here. You said before and then during the pregnancy, but you didn't talk about and mentioned specifically after when I'm talking about it right after, in the next three years? No, it's not because the baby's waking up all throughout the night. You're not having to wake up.

Speaker 2:

That has nothing to do with you working out.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it does.

Speaker 2:

Because it deals with time. Okay, in the comments, any one of you I don't have. I'm not a. You know what I'm saying. I'm not a womb man.

Speaker 1:

I guarantee you're not going to see as many women work out post-partum, post-pregnancy.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying it's possible.

Speaker 1:

It is possible, depending on what they got going on.

Speaker 2:

And how much it means to you. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it is a factor, but if you, if you got a lot of women than it is for guys I got a lot shit going on right now.

Speaker 2:

We all do, but some shit I'm going to do. I'm going to be honest it's I can have everything going on. I'm going to do this thing Because you work at home. You, no, no no, no, no, I haven't said what the thing is. For me, it's not working out.

Speaker 1:

I'll be honest, I'm not working out like that. Oh, you're speaking.

Speaker 2:

There are some things generally, generally that I'm. I'm going to do this Like what Sex with my wife is going to happen. I don't care how busy I am, I don't care how crazy life gets. I'm going to make time for that, but you don't have to change for sex.

Speaker 1:

It's more like taking clothes off. The activity lasts for anywhere from 10 to 30 minutes.

Speaker 3:

And then you don't necessarily have to shower afterwards.

Speaker 1:

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on listen. No, because, you because you, I want you to be a little bit more. Let's, let's dig a little deeper and, daniel, please intervene at any point, but when you work out, it's an entire process that takes minimum an hour, I'll say this yeah.

Speaker 3:

So when I'm in the gym I take I can take up to two hours. So I'll lift weights for between 60 and 90 minutes, and then I'll have a 30 minute cardio session. Goodness gracious.

Speaker 2:

But you don't have to be that. No, I don't have to be that I think.

Speaker 3:

I think for the average person the time you spend in the gym is between 45 minutes and 75. So 45 and one hour 50.

Speaker 3:

So, let's go with, but for this hypothetical 45, but I will say this you don't even have to apply a certain amount of time If, if somebody is not used to like rigorous working out and then you get hit with, like the pregnancy or having to take care of a whole another life, like also, like you said, we talked about those genetic predispositions as well. You know what I mean. Like if. So y'all are kind of both right in the sense that like, if, if someone is a body like, like, let's say, there's a woman bodybuilder.

Speaker 2:

Yes.

Speaker 3:

And and she is to the point where let's say she's not, she's not taking hormones or whatever, she's just she's purely natural. But this is like her whole fitness, her IG is a fitness page and like her life is like is is manifesting the physique that she envisions in her brain. That's her life, or or even if it's not just her outward appearance, it's a maybe, it's her strength level.

Speaker 1:

And it's already incorporated in her life.

Speaker 3:

It's, it's, it's, it's it's possible that, like, like she, can they like have a, have kids and still like, make that an emphasis on her life. Is it going to clearly is not going to take up as much time as before, but me as a, as a person to, to play your side, uh, uh, jt, uh, me, as a person who's very into fitness, if I fall off for like three, four, for three weeks or four weeks, even in that gym, the next day is going to feel like climbing a mountain.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. Like, like so you're not lying, I've experienced that.

Speaker 2:

So to somebody that, to somebody that's why I don't work out now Every time I try to get shabby hurting. I was doing basic shit like pushups and pull it, but I was burning the next day. It was terrible.

Speaker 1:

You also two days later. I think it was also like go straight, you go cold. Turkey Dino.

Speaker 2:

And then go straight into that Cause. That's all that.

Speaker 1:

That's what I'm just jumping back into, what I know how to gradually go back into working out and it's a process and I want you to like spend some time on that too, like, and hence why I'm sure you got your certification in part and being a physical trainer or personal trainer. But like, like, like, there's certain phases and parts of the process that people need to understand and that they skip over almost, if you will. Like, people think that getting into fitness or getting physically shit.

Speaker 2:

Huh, that's not lost at race.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause you didn't know Right, and then you thought it was just going to be a straight drag race. I was fast, bro, and then I'm a slow burner.

Speaker 2:

I hadn't ran in so long.

Speaker 1:

We did this race back in season three.

Speaker 3:

How far, how far were y'all running it?

Speaker 1:

was a sprint, it was just a 40 meter.

Speaker 2:

My ankles got to pop in my knees yeah.

Speaker 1:

I knew that he had been working out consistently.

Speaker 2:

I had been running, I had been running like in a while.

Speaker 1:

But I'm a little.

Speaker 2:

I'm short, and stocky right, so I don't look like I know I'm fasting and thinking in real life, though I'm just out of shape. But real life is no way. But he lost twice.

Speaker 3:

Trying to bring your body to a full on sprint. If you do, if you have not sprinted or run In a while Kevin Hart is a prime example yeah, you're risking yourself.

Speaker 1:

He broke his shit because he was trying to perform at the level of a previous NFL wide receiver. Of course you're not going to like he, he was keeping up, but look at what it cost my biggest on the wheelchair Right. He was at abductors within like the thigh area, right, like in the groin area. But who is this?

Speaker 2:

Kevin Hart.

Speaker 3:

Kevin Hart, you didn't hear about this Same as that shit Last week I was to him.

Speaker 1:

He was talking smack.

Speaker 2:

He raced last week.

Speaker 1:

This was last week, yes, at the beginning of last week. I remember him and he put out a video before it came out because he knew that shade room and everybody else was going to pick it up, but he broke his own story.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know you're going to be talking about it and he's in a wheelchair.

Speaker 1:

He's in the wheelchair, right now, yeah, and he's not being seen. He ain't doing no shows right now. No, no Like, then it gets stuck.

Speaker 2:

He came out like this way you ain't going to see me before they tell you this will happen.

Speaker 1:

They were at a picnic and he was joking about it too. The good thing about Kevin Hart is that he does a great job of like making fun of reality. Yeah Right, especially for him Like. So he was saying that they were at a picnic, they were at a kickback and they were talking shit and he was like I'll race you right now. So they went in the street and they got positioning and whatnot and he kept up with him. I mean, he didn't pass him up or anything, but he was with him for like majority of the race. And then you can see when his body said no, he's also 44 years old too, so age caught up. But Kevin Hart, we know him to be consistently working out.

Speaker 1:

He was sponsored by Nike. He has a deal with Fabletics, so this guy does fitness.

Speaker 3:

But you think about the stature?

Speaker 1:

Right. He has his physical stature and his background versus.

Speaker 2:

Who was the? I don't know. I don't remember his name.

Speaker 1:

Stephen, really, or some guy with his name. Is that was me. Yeah, I was killed. I broke my foot playing basketball with my nephews, his muscles and his abductors and his abdomen, and therefore he can't even stand up straight.

Speaker 3:

Zero to a hundred, real quick.

Speaker 1:

So zero to a hundred. He had that burst effect.

Speaker 3:

That's why I was like you got to warm up into that. But people don't understand how to warm up.

Speaker 1:

They think a warm up is just like Okay, I'm done. Like I stretched my arm, I stretch my people.

Speaker 2:

I feel you talk about me, but I'm talking about. No, I'm not talking. I'm talking about because I go from zero to one hundred. The masses like his clientele. But am I maybe one of them? Because, like I haven't successfully eased into my shit easy.

Speaker 1:

You already admitted to that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you admitted to that I'm not going to go into working out. I mean yeah, I can.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so walk prime example. I'm about to prove my point right now. Explain how. What you would do if you started working out tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I think, I think.

Speaker 1:

How do you warm up? Oh, this is, this is real. Like At your peak, how many pull-ups were you able to do?

Speaker 2:

See, that's, that's what I was just asking, right now Don't want to do, because I'll do like a bro, even out of shape and with nonstop, I mean how many pull-ups at? Your peak, were you able to do five months, six months at your peak? It doesn't bar on this. Do you know? Answer the question. I should do more pull-ups and use what?

Speaker 1:

I'm getting at. It's not about me. I'm asking you, I'm trying to prove a point. Okay, how many pull-ups you do right there, don't?

Speaker 2:

What are you making about me? I'm asking you because I'm trying to contextualize how many I can do.

Speaker 1:

So 15 you can, you can do 15. I do 20. No, I'm not talking about me, I'm saying you. I'm just putting a number because I'm trying to drive home a point for our listeners.

Speaker 2:

Pull-ups, okay, 15.

Speaker 1:

I guess you can yeah. So you say, at your peak you did 15 straight.

Speaker 2:

Oh Peak, no, that's, that's, like this nigga don't listen.

Speaker 1:

That's like 25, then let's do 25. I know for a fact that your peak, you couldn't do 25 straight, more than 25 straight without a pause. No, there's no fucking way that you All right, damn you. How many go ahead? How many pull-ups can you do nonstop straight?

Speaker 3:

I weigh 150 pounds right now I think conservatively I could say I could hit like maybe 40 and but look at you and look at him, but you know what?

Speaker 1:

you mean you?

Speaker 2:

always look like that Pull-ups is different. That's exactly. Pull-ups is different.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what You've probably not hit him in correct form. All right, that's not the point.

Speaker 2:

That's say that you can do 25 under under under 25. Have it fine, let's do 40. Out of shape.

Speaker 1:

Let's do 40. Say, at your peak you were able to do 40 consistent, okay, right, without any interruptions, without any break, right, 40. So you, if you were to start working out tomorrow after being off for six months, you would literally try to accomplish those 40 and that's and that's. I give you 20 25.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm not saying that that's what you're saying. Like I'm a go for the 40.

Speaker 1:

You're going to go for the 40 and that's why you're going to. That's what. That's an example of how you don't do.

Speaker 2:

So that's what you would do Now that you gave me a scenario. No, I would go for the 20 or the 20, and I even I'll start with maybe 10, just to see how I feel. Then I'll probably go 15. I'll go 20. But I might. I might try to get to that 40 though.

Speaker 1:

You shouldn't even be trying to do collective. Even if you broke it up, you shouldn't be going for 40 is what I'm saying you should be breaking. If you're going to break it up into five segments, demax you should do is 20.

Speaker 2:

That's how you gradually do. I'm doing five sets of 20. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

That's you know that mathematically that's way more than but the point that I'm trying to drive home Okay Is that people don't have the knowledge of how to warm up or gradually go into working out ease. People don't know how to work out at all.

Speaker 2:

In general, people don't really. I found people don't know how to really use equipment for real. People don't know how, like proper form. A lot of people don't know they may do what they've been told or what they've seen, but they don't know like if they're really trying to get rid of this or do this thing. They may not know the right way to get there myself included.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and bringing it back to Daniel, that's why that's the benefits of hiring a personal trainer. I'll put it like this yeah, pay for people in general and I am generalizing this, but Americans right.

Speaker 3:

I'll use this analogy.

Speaker 1:

I'll use this analogy, and it's more so speaking to a particular ethnic group, and I'm sure you'll be able to guess this right up top after All.

Speaker 2:

Right, so Caligurating.

Speaker 1:

Americans are particular ethnic group. Okay, will, but will spend money on materialistic things a certain amount, right, not even think twice about it. But when it comes to food or groceries, they they're conscious about how much they're spending.

Speaker 2:

Right, you think so, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, for example, you will buy 30. You will spend $30 on a meal, right, okay, you need like two or three of the meals throughout the day on a daily basis, but on the monthly subscription of Hulu, you like think twice about that when you think about things that you need to cut back budget wise. Why do Nick, why do people, why do people immediately think about all right things I got to cut back? Do I really need this subscription Bro?

Speaker 1:

Well, but I mean, I'm not mad at that $20 for a subscription for a month, versus $30 that you spend on one meal in a day, when you're going to eat two more meals later on in. Hulu and keep the meal Exactly Right.

Speaker 2:

Exactly what I'm saying I just understood, that Is the meal healthy, though, applying about it?

Speaker 1:

No, not necessarily.

Speaker 3:

It's like you can get away further $30 on groceries.

Speaker 1:

Exactly Right, right, a lot of the logic now between convenience, exactly when groceries and versus eating out people will be like $30 of groceries. I still got to spend gas to get there. I got to take my time to drive there. Get the go Park. Get the items. Bring it back to my car, load it, get it back home, cook it, prepare it. Get using pots and pans. Now I got to clean the pots and pans afterwards. Got to clean up.

Speaker 1:

Then I got to eat and then enjoy the meal by the time, like all that process is over two hours, two and a half hours has passed by.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think, though, a lot of it is based on education and exposure too.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, so a lot of people in our community, you know, in areas we grew up in, there was not a whole foods nearby.

Speaker 3:

It still ain't, yeah.

Speaker 2:

In a lot of places you may have an Aldi.

Speaker 1:

That is one of as much as I've asked social media. That is one of the beautiful things about social media?

Speaker 2:

is the fact that Right? I think just about 10 dishes off.

Speaker 1:

TikTok. I've dogged social media and journeys but like this, both things have been very instrumental for a lot of people. I see almost 90% of my friends that I'm connected to our social media are all posting fitness journeys and like their walk in life and saying like, hey, I'm not necessarily posting this for y'all, it's more so for me as motivation to keep me going Right and to track my progress. And posting it for others to see also kind of helps them, holds them accountable. And accountability yeah.

Speaker 3:

Because I feel like fitness is becoming more of a diverse thing too, Whereas most people back then probably associated with like oh, I just want to either get really ripped or look good, have a certain aesthetic. Whereas now it's like okay, fitness can be yoga meditation. You know, what I mean Basically, how physical activity maybe impacts your mental and emotional experience.

Speaker 2:

And food.

Speaker 1:

How food impacts your mental, yeah, the hormones associated with it.

Speaker 2:

Well, I've seen such a vast shift and I'm curious to get your thoughts on this. Okay, you've been somebody. Even just now we were talking about how certain, like aversion to certain things shape your desire to even have or interact with those things. For me, I don't have the desire to even buy some of the bullshit I used to eat. I've replaced it with other things and I don't even crave them anymore. So, in the same sense, if you do well, so like I maybe used to eat a lot of sweet shit honey, buns and Oreos or whatever and now, bro, I go in there and get a sweet plum or nectarine, carve it up with a sharp knife and I'm a country boy, so like I just eat that. But my point is, if I want some of the sweet and cold, I'm going to go for that instead of going for, I don't know, the ice cream I don't know. But my point is like I don't even crave some of the shit I used to really really just was a normal Chippahoy Chooies with my shit.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they were my shit, the Chooies the soft ones.

Speaker 3:

The soft ones, bro, what?

Speaker 2:

Those was my, I would just. I mean, I smashed a whole pack of them before I even looked up and I never could gain weight. So it was like my superpower.

Speaker 1:

Damn you. Why did you stop being a personal trainer?

Speaker 3:

What do you still do? Mostly just because I feel like I mean I'm willing to give people advice or somebody wants to talk about how much they're lifting or they're eating habits, I'll do that. But as far as doing something formal where I have a set program or plan laid out, that requires a lot of time and energy, which I mean I like to do it, but it's like, well, I still got a, I don't know I still got my nine to five and that takes a lot of time.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, and.

Speaker 3:

I don't want to charge nobody if I couldn't give them my fool.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. So it is. So it is kind of attributed to the nine to five right, yeah, I would say so I would say so Did you make a? Lot of bread, like when you were a personal trainer.

Speaker 3:

No well, I really only had like a few clients and it was just like, okay, this is something I can do, just because you know. This was like right after I competed in my first show. So I was like at this point in my life.

Speaker 1:

You was in it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I was like really really identifying with, like fitness, the fitness. I guess industry like heavily, but that's I don't know. That's one thing I kind of wanted to get across is that you know fitness and nutrition and just overall your physical, bodily, corporal health is not something that has to be your complete identity, for it to be like a part of your identity.

Speaker 3:

You know, what I mean you can still take care of yourself, and it not be like because I feel like that's a lot of things, a lot of a lot of what maybe shy people away from like getting started on their fitness journey is that like oh, I don't look a certain way, yeah, and like all this work that I'm putting in these past two, three weeks or months, or before they put in the results even before they

Speaker 3:

put in work and it's just like oh, this is not something like I can identify with you know and it's like I don't know You'll never. You can never be perfect Education doesn't exist because, because better exist, and that's, that's always good. You know what I?

Speaker 2:

mean it's always better. Yeah, yeah, I love that.

Speaker 3:

So realizing, like, just like we talked about the GPS, right, like just understanding your starting point is going to help you get to where you want to go. You know what I mean. And like, because, like, part of that is like also like, okay, knowing, okay, I'm not here, but I'm not, I'm not also further back than I'm thinking. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

Like tempered goal setting and objective setting is extremely important versus achieving the goal. You know what I mean Like and what I guess in other terms in layman's term right Is appreciating the process in the journey I talk about it all the time.

Speaker 3:

Right, dude, have you seen this guy on YouTube? His channel is called Huberman Lab. No Cold dude, I'm not familiar with that he talks about.

Speaker 3:

He talks a lot about like the psychology behind like goals and he's heavily into like fitness and nutrition stuff too right, but he's he's. He talked about this crazy state that they did on kids and how they would give them a questions or homework or a test. And you know, the first round they did really well. One group of kids they said oh, great job, you're so smart, you're so intelligent. The other group of kids they said great job, you worked so hard, you put so much effort into it. And so, instead of like rewarding the actual achievement or the innate, I guess, like characteristic that you know, like you would have to associate with, like achieving something, they rewarded the effort, the journey, and so then, they gave them.

Speaker 3:

They gave them another set of tests right the second round, and the latter group scored higher or more difficult problem.

Speaker 3:

I'll say because the first group right, which I'm sure, like a lot of us experience, especially like being black males and going to UT is like okay, at a certain point you kind of have to get out of this. This, you know, predisposition of like, of good things happen to me and you know you get used to like, you know things going well because you know you're smarter, because you know like you know you're on that next level and then, like you know, once you get to undergrad or like whatever, you're on the window, bro, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

We all on the starting line. Now you got to work.

Speaker 2:

Now you got to. I didn't know how to study when I went from college to college. I was cramming the bullshit papers test night before. That didn't work at UT. That shit didn't work?

Speaker 3:

for me Not at all.

Speaker 1:

I got a 2.5 on a 4.0 scale for my first year. I mean no, no, no no, my first year, my first semester right. And that was the low. That was the first time I had made a C in my life for a grading period, and so it humbled me very fast.

Speaker 2:

And.

Speaker 1:

I questioned a lot about like dang, am I going? I started thinking about going into the military like and quitting college because I even how I even got to college. I was going to go to Broadway. I was going, like all my accolades and everything that had been leading up to like my senior year was leading me to New York or to California and after that audition I was going. They wanted to send me to California. I was like, no, I want to be on stage, I don't want to be on behind film like I don't I don't want to do that.

Speaker 1:

So that's how I ended up at college. And then, when that 2.5 smack me across the face and that December what? 2010? I Was like man. And then I had a conversation with my brother, who was already in the military at the time. And he was like dude, just come on on the side. It was so easy for him to say that to me because he was already in and he didn't respect he didn't respect school.

Speaker 1:

Yeah at all because he barely Passed, even though he's smart as a whip. But he didn't school the school system. I can even it wasn't his thing at all, and so he was, and it wasn't. It wasn't a lot of people staying from the hood, right, or where we come from north side of Houston, right, and so and After at that point I had to come to reality and really sit down and be honest with myself and then at that point I was like, let me at least Try this sec.

Speaker 1:

Let me try next semester, because when you go to college you experience so much, right you? For the first time everything your first time like without your parents traditionally, or Generalize right your first time by yourself when you live it on your own full time. Yeah, you determine your schedule. Your accountability is all gonna be dependent on you. Yeah, right, and how you go to class?

Speaker 3:

and what not or.

Speaker 1:

Right, if you never had to send alarm before and your parents said it for you. You learn real fast.

Speaker 2:

How difficult it is. Right, come in and so.

Speaker 1:

You know, just simple things like that.

Speaker 3:

But you touched on that point right there of, like you know, assessing or realizing. You actually have to like try, because the yeah. The problem with, like that first set of kids, right and like all of us, before getting to college, is that you identify your, your, you know yourself, with the result of like doing well, yeah. So as soon as not doing well comes across, you're like oh, that's a reflection of me, yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1:

So so I'm really hard to do like that.

Speaker 3:

What they're trying to do, like with those second group of kids is like, oh, like the, the, the process is like is like your, your tool, your brain butter you know, I mean not the, not the result not the end, because, bro, no one can take that from you and that's, and that's, and that's the same.

Speaker 2:

I've earned my expertise and no one can take exactly and Daniel has the same thing with fitness.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, is that the why people don't want to like either continue or like or start is because they think I Won't get the, the end result or whatever.

Speaker 1:

That you know I'm seeing with other people or that I envision it can be two ways to on how that happens. Right, like I'm so used to getting everything I want, it just comes natural for me and this fitness shit isn't doing that. Oh fuck it. Maybe it's just me, or maybe it's the fitness in general or whatever whatever what's number two? Number two is more so like the people that are, is associated with his example is People aren't there and they're already intimidated by the process. Like I'm never going to attain that.

Speaker 2:

I'm wondering if, like, societal pressures Play a point. I would imagine I'm thinking about people who are like thinking okay, or like take, like earlier, I'll tell my even the way that I eat so vastly different than I used to. Right, it's just out of like wanting to try some, just be, do better. But there are people like we've started meatless Mondays, but I really don't. I don't, I don't. I don't have to ascribe to any certain Idea, ideological perspective, or I don't have to. You have to stand me with certain things. I am not a vegan, nor do I aspire to be, but but there's some vegan.

Speaker 2:

Food is fucking fire and if I don't have to eat me, then why am I gonna like? My point is it's certain things that I think people get too caught up in, like being something or you know. I mean like 100%. Just do that, because if that's what you want to do, try that, and if it works for you, cool. But I do think there's something important that I, when I found this, it made a difference for me was like goal casting, like a vision casting, rather goal setting. You can just work out forever and and make good work of it, do a good job at it, be consistent. But if you don't know where you want to go, then when you, how you ever? What's the measure of success?

Speaker 2:

Those KPIs About what I want to achieve. Corporate talk, but it made a difference for me.

Speaker 1:

Are the rumors true about male personal trainers and women? Um, so that's what they were. That's what the lesson is. Really want to know, right? So I'll be fucking bro, I'll be fucking y'all.

Speaker 3:

Women clothes I only had three clients and all of them I knew like personally, like they weren't, I didn't meet them. Yeah, like one was like yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, baby, but I was like they snowboard it when they were younger and so that's how they knew my parents and so that's how we all got started on snowboarding. But, like you said earlier about like oh, if somebody prioritized, prioritized, they're gonna do it. Yeah, that's one of my things. Like I don't care if I'm dead broke and don't have a job or a place to lay my head, I'm gonna find a way to raise some money and go At least once a year.

Speaker 1:

You know, a funny thing about snowboarding is that that was my dream job. Snowboarding, yeah, when I was growing up. But think about a kid in the hood in green Texas. I've always that was my number one never gone when I find no, I've been several times. Oh, yeah, yeah and so, but I just was fascinated by the X games when I was.

Speaker 1:

In Sean white oh man dude, and he was our age coming up, and so when I saw him doing that I was like yo, that's possible for me. But then I would tell my friends if he, they would just laugh me well cuz all day, because it's just like Houston we never go see snow and stuff exactly, and and then, plus, like we were poor growing up, so there wasn't like I had family or any way of getting to the slopes, like in Colorado or and in the Poconos.

Speaker 1:

I didn't even know that Poconos was a thing until we moved to Philly.

Speaker 3:

Shame was plug here. I'm a part of an organization called the lack millennial ski club. What?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, we just we just had a second trip this though this past March, but um we're having like a little interest.

Speaker 3:

Meetings tomorrow, next week.

Speaker 1:

I've had just meeting, not a.

Speaker 2:

Informational.

Speaker 1:

We're gonna test y'all knowledge, express interest, why you want, why you want to be.

Speaker 3:

you know I found a mirror, you know, yeah, I found this.

Speaker 2:

Objectives no, I named it you run the jewels.

Speaker 3:

I run it. You can see it going on a trip, if you can see the going on the trip. But but yeah, the our whole thing. Along with there's a. There's a larger organization that's mostly like older folks called the, the brotherhood of skis, brotherhood of skiers.

Speaker 1:

The Tuskegee. I'm so the Tuskegee.

Speaker 3:

Skiers, skiers, okay national brotherhood of skiers, like an NBS is what they call how fast can you get down to slow? No, what they're doing is the whole, the whole. I guess the whole thing is is like they try to go in large groups like Seasonally. Yeah, so that that we can negotiate with, like the resorts, for lower rates, because that's the yeah, yeah and lower rental prices for equipment so that's the main barrier.

Speaker 2:

That's the barrier.

Speaker 3:

Okay, we just all go together. That makes sense, and then it's gonna be cheaper, you know, for everybody.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, long now I dig that Tom Joyner cruise and what was it called?

Speaker 3:

again, a Large organization. My, our group is like we try to cater we try to get more 25, yeah, 25 to 35 out there.

Speaker 1:

Okay, people access that on IG or.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we got an IG at black millennials key club black millennial. Yeah, that's player.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm gonna see him for the first time when I turned 30. How was it? It was amazing. Yeah it was literally amazing bro.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, I tell people like which one's harder? Okay it's, it's harder to advance as a skier. It's easier to, like you know, not fall in the beginning easier to start? Yeah, I'll tell you that. But. But harder to master snowboarding is harder to learn the fundamentals.

Speaker 1:

Once you get that, you you pick up the pace quick. Yeah, yeah, I was testing your knowledge.

Speaker 2:

It was it was harder to stop snowboarding than it was skin, because skin you just turn them in you good, let's get into news, all right.

Speaker 1:

So we got three points. Want to see what y'all want to kind of get into. First, miguel back piercing Foot locker. Shares decline and Drake 21 Savage fans and boundaries. Hmm which, uh, which one of the three do I want to get?

Speaker 2:

into. I'm curious to hear about it. So I must say for disclosure that the 21 and Drake and the Miguel shit, like I, this is I saw the Miguel shit, so it's not like do-do, but I don't know much beyond what I saw. What I saw was it was kind of the Ripley believe it or not type shit, but the Drake and 21 shit, I'm curious about that. I'm gonna go into that first. Why won't it? Yeah, let me hear what happened and then, like I'm curious because bounderings, boundaries With, we'll go ahead.

Speaker 1:

I fans at Drake's concert being Concerts have been getting a bit hensy during his his entrances, so during his interest as he comes from the top of the stadium or the arena and then he's walking through the crowd to get to the center of the stage. At a recent concert, a fan put her hand around his neck. 21 Savage got a glimpse of this too, but his reflexes showed he wasn't with that. He basically muffed the fan, and if you aren't familiar, then go ahead and take a look at this video video yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so you'll be able to see. The fan is like basically trying to grab his neck and waddle him like a turkey like yeah. Yes, and swipe it and you'll see 21 Savage. The girl is more aggressive and it look, look, look, she comes back and then she, once he passes, she tries to grab him from the back and the security you know wards are off, but yeah, the girls are clearly drunk, the ones that are trying neck, what's happening?

Speaker 3:

I don't know what is Trin behind that in the mixed Becoming in, like out of a tunnel where, like you know, kind of like, like a security is mad far back.

Speaker 1:

Well, okay, so, so let's so let's kind of unpack this little bit, let's go. So there's always risk when you're going through and interacting in the crowds as it as a notable artist, especially of Drake and 21 Savage's tier right um. But when you go through that as a fan, you should also understand Right and so the idols is right there in front of them.

Speaker 3:

They see the others right. Maybe that's the issue, is the idolization. I mean, if you yeah. I'm a huge Drake fan. If it was me, I'm thinking you know I'm not gonna, I'll put my hand out, but for him to like, replace Drake with a woman that you Super-admire and I've been waiting on this moment to touch you? You're right here. You want to switch the genders, is what you're saying?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because I mean high five, a Drake deal, you're not gonna grab the homie neck, or?

Speaker 3:

grab balls.

Speaker 2:

But like we have video of that happening for these women, so I'm like replace Drake with a woman that you admire. I mean, I still that's.

Speaker 3:

That would be that would be even more reason for me Really not to like touch. But no.

Speaker 2:

Even like even the most aggressive shit, you wouldn't but, but see, that's the double standard too, though, because if a man does that, he's immediately getting hauled the fuck away.

Speaker 1:

You know why Beyonce would never do that some shit like that? Because the, because, the beehive, I don't know what Drake's fan fandom is called. I have a name, but the beehive has to be the most obsessive fan group I've ever seen since Michael Jackson right in that security.

Speaker 2:

I need better security.

Speaker 1:

But you talk about, like the impact that artists artists have on on people right. When Michael Jackson was alive in the 90s, he in the 80s he he had some of the most iconic Suits and performances and songs.

Speaker 2:

It was a king of pop right, king of period music, the best performance right. Best entertainers a they ever and homie to have people grab his, grab his neck.

Speaker 1:

No homie had people passing out when he when they saw his presence. He wouldn't even be in close proximity, he just was show up stage.

Speaker 2:

Pop up on stage.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and they were, and it has stretchers kind of power, this like they were. I remember I was five years old when I saw, when I saw him perform at the Super Bowl, and they were Will tell you and and stretching people.

Speaker 2:

You remember that you know. You remember. Wasn't that kind of power you have as a human being? What kind of energy must project?

Speaker 1:

he just stood there he popped up on stage like Ray.

Speaker 2:

Mysterio.

Speaker 3:

He just stood there.

Speaker 1:

This is an arrow to curly hair, to white big socks and Remember, and he stood there for like like two minutes straight like they stood there for two and a half minutes and people just fallen out and you would have thought that, that they were like actresses and stuff, whatever.

Speaker 2:

Not it was it was, it was guys Falling he'd be at a show in fucking Estonia and people. People will be literally in tears, crying bro. Yeah, I was like so I mean, there's no one that, but I feel that way about, but now, like I don't remember seeing people grope and Groping and hit and trying to handle Mike like how they were trying to do 21 and Drake, we live in a different era, bro.

Speaker 1:

Like she grabbed his neck. And she grabbed Drake's neck and waddled his neck. Like it waddled his neck, fat yeah, like that. Shit is crazy bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, this was like like and, and and he laughed it off. He laughed it off, right balls grabbed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, good, when I look, I put like this, I'm a nobody right. When I, when I probated, oh we were. We did the same thing. We like stroll through the crowd, y'all like, and they were, huh, no, we were sure, listen. No, we had the white button, ups with the red tie, the brown spinners and huh.

Speaker 3:

This was as y'all making yeah, as we were making the entrance.

Speaker 2:

They were grabbing post mask are not post.

Speaker 1:

Sack lifting it up junk like literally jiggling it and saying hey, like, and whispering in our ears. We had the pillowcases over our heads, so we but huh, no, no, it was one, because we could see through the, through the cape, but at the same time, like, like, see.

Speaker 1:

You know, even in a return, you already All right anyways. But what I'm saying is like the fandom was there just for us, not a Russian crossing of fraternity at our school Right. So just imagine like they assumed a lot of risk Going through the crowd and they're the biggest artist in hip-hop and. Drake is the biggest artist on the planet, probably right, right behind or right before Beyonce, right Dress. So yeah, I mean he's up there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and so him walking to the crowd the fact that huh, because Beyonce is number one. Oh, okay, look okay, I finally admit it right.

Speaker 1:

No, look, look, look, look.

Speaker 2:

We talked about that earlier, right, and this is a little bit of a tangent no, no, no, keep going. What you saying? What?

Speaker 1:

I'm saying is like that was a huge risk for him to walk through the crowd. But, yeah, I think the fact that that was mild, right, the fact that he can get choked out no, no, he wasn't getting it choked out, he just got groped and grabbed right. But, but listen, the fact that that's all that happened Kind of shows how he has a handle of of of his audience, and in his fans.

Speaker 2:

I don't want to put the hands around my neck, I think, but I think Beyonce couldn't do what Drake just did.

Speaker 1:

No is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Beyonce has, though she's walked through crowds without.

Speaker 3:

She has not.

Speaker 1:

She has not walked through crowds like what Drake in 21 I promise.

Speaker 2:

I can pull up a video on YouTube of her walking through some pull out of some form after the point here's my point.

Speaker 1:

We'll talk about it.

Speaker 2:

She's gonna be walking through that bitch with the most widest of walkways, with being a security, who's gonna have a runway a?

Speaker 1:

mile long foot without anyone. Yeah, arms reach. So then that's not necessary. That's walking through a pathway that has been made for you in the crowd, but it shows, I think it shows the gap between the two, though because that's what you said like Mike, could never do it with you would I don't think, I don't know what ever touch it.

Speaker 2:

No, allow it to touch, because there's too many there's too many Unknowns you know as.

Speaker 3:

I think that the normal, like the, the normal person is like Respectable and has sense and is like not going to violate your personal space.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure if a woman punched him in the face then he would see he would cease that and then find a different way to Get to that.

Speaker 2:

Grab his neck, yeah, but he's continued. He's still like he's still walking through the crowd. I'm saying yeah okay.

Speaker 1:

So what y'all are saying is he's not that big of an artist to Be able to walk through the crowd.

Speaker 3:

I don't think he should. He shouldn't be doing that in the first place. He is that big of artist. But like. What I'm saying is at least like, like somebody like Beyonce knows not never even attempt that.

Speaker 1:

Well, be in that way a being a woman, and then also because if she was doing that they she wouldn't be, she wouldn't even make it to the stage, because they would literally be, all over her, like, and what I'm saying is I think that there's a difference between Drake's fandom, that like.

Speaker 1:

That's why I was. That's the point I was trying to get at was Drake's fandom, drake, drake's fan group versus Beyonce's fan group. Let's call Drake's fan group like the, the Sixes, right, and then the beehive, beehive. There they have a crazy obsession. There's more. The word obsession is more associated with beehive than it is with Drake sixes.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't think it's that. I think it's. I genuinely don't even think it's that deep as far as, like the, the obsession with the artist, necessarily, I just think I think I'm gonna allow herself to be Groped, to be grabbed around the neck. All right, cool, let's move on oh.

Speaker 3:

Cuz I was thinking about it most, even even like I don't know, most women, you know, love Beyonce. They might not be like die-hard super fans, like going to every concert but Most women's favorite, like at least top three artists. Beyonce's in there.

Speaker 2:

You know the men's consensus that she's one of the more attractive women in entertainment.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so period, and I wouldn't, I wouldn't go so far as to say Drake isn't Drake?

Speaker 1:

isn't the most, one of the most attractive people? That is making music Relatable music at that across a whole spectrum of different categories of music.

Speaker 3:

What I'm saying is that that when you think about the like, the average Woman, or even the average like black woman, liking Beyonce is not really I don't think that's that can be a soul attributed to like too many negative traits. Now she has trolls like, like people that, like you know, there's a whole show about Charlie, like remember.

Speaker 1:

Swarm right Obsession like exactly associated with the beehive I think nobody's made us obsession movie or documentary Associated with Drake's, but it's what I'm saying, what I think, what you have to do with her.

Speaker 3:

Okay, hold on Hold on.

Speaker 1:

Let that you'll finish this point first, and I know what I think is what I think is right.

Speaker 3:

There's a there's a small like minority of the beehive who is willing to like they have a wider spectrum of what they're willing to do in the name of Beyonce. That doesn't mean the whole fandom is, on average, crazy.

Speaker 1:

They, just you, just you by the small.

Speaker 3:

Yeah yes Versus like okay like when you think about I Don't know, I think a lot of, I think. I really think Nicki fans are kind of wild, but there but, even. Rihanna or. Drake let's talk about Drake though.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I would say the average. Like diehard Drake fan, it's probably like you know, it's probably kind of kind of like a toxic nigga bro. You know, I'm saying who's probably like if we be in real. You know I'm saying like, like somebody who's just like you know so you say I love Drake, I love his music, the minute, the minute, the minute, the minute the minute you do that. Shit comes out of our drink is like I'm not really fucking with Drake.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Like it's, like I'm not, I'm not tied, you know yeah. Yeah, you know so.

Speaker 1:

Miguel, Moving on and in great points right. We can go back and forth, but we have a lot more show that we got to get to All right so Miguel soars over audience after being lifted in the air by ropes attached to his back piercings. You heard that correct? Ladies and gentlemen, majority of y'all probably have already seen the video, but for those who are not aware of what I'm talking about, miguel, the artist, has literally rods. Had had rods inserted, pierced into his back.

Speaker 1:

Think about like yeah, like hooks to be lifted from the ground right Like metal rods pierced into his back, kind of like gargoyle style, like a Figuring that you would attach wings to on the back of the person's back, had harnesses hook on to those metal rods and Suspended him in the air and you can literally see his skin being pulled, pulled.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I want to hear your thoughts because this is something that's really intriguing to you. I could see For one, ain't no?

Speaker 1:

song gonna. There's not a song in Miguel's catalog that would scream that he needs to be pulled by these back of his skin Over fans. Yeah, over 10 feet in the air, because they didn't lift them all the way up in there, they just they were pretty hot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly, do you think he maybe just into that shit? That's a thing, right? No, no, that's exactly where I was gonna go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you saying he's like a whole Revealing about his personal interest 100%.

Speaker 3:

Cuz when I, when I think of that, for some reason, I'm thinking of like a larger white woman. Yeah, not attractive and they're just hanging her like a pig. That's not what I was thinking at all I'm thinking just because they had like a larger white one.

Speaker 1:

I don't know why, but in my mind I'm picturing like the pigs at H eb the grocery store the meat markets. That's, that's in their meat package, all right, but what I'm saying is that for one a, I mean like he is a rock star, right.

Speaker 2:

Is this a new conceptually? This is a very new. This is a novel thing you like. This is mad, weird, right?

Speaker 1:

I mean, he's the first artist of his yeah. I've never seen Steven Tyler or no, like Kirk Hull Bain or anybody within the rock realm because I think they could.

Speaker 3:

He could have just strapped on a harness Right, because I've seen people bash their heads with the guitar and beer bottles and stuff.

Speaker 2:

I've never seen somebody's question, for y'all get a piercing in their back and and spend themselves in the air, yeah bro, if your back skin rips off. You are now, I can rip off.

Speaker 1:

That's actually it's a very billion muscle.

Speaker 3:

So that's why he did it there I mean people. It's associated with a, with BDSM, it's a king. What is BDSM? Or it's a no-no, no, no, look at us. It's a no-no, masochism.

Speaker 1:

It's a no-no, masochism. It's like a no-no, matt, mask it. What so, bro, the?

Speaker 3:

s. The s is like. One of them is like you get a kick out of causing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's like it's like something maybe there's something dominatrix or.

Speaker 1:

BDSM right. Yes, yes, I'm sex, it doesn't mean BDSM is a way of having sex, brute mass.

Speaker 2:

I've been acronym.

Speaker 1:

BDSM is a term used to describe sex that involves dominance, submission and control. Oh okay, mm-hmm, all right, cool. The practice typically involves one partner taking a more on, a more dominant role during sex, while the other is more submissive. Yeah, okay according to 2016 study, nearly 47% of women and 60% of men have fantasized about dominating someone in a sexual Like being stabbed in the back and suspended while somebody performs sexual acts on you. So this is a whole thing, by the way.

Speaker 2:

There's like a natural aversion. What the hell is this? This is a thing that's like this, this, this mess. So my question to y'all is because you make a really good point, bro You're like homie could just put a harness on and, like most people, and swung. They don't even have harnesses. Now the technology has evolved such that you don't even, you can't even tell homie has anything on, like it looks like he's just flying.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he basically putting it out there like, hey, I'm into this that was a part that was as much part of the performance as a song itself, right? Do you think they're homies into that Hell? Yeah, now that I know that, that that's associated with that, then that's because the way that his music like that he has a song called do you like drugs?

Speaker 1:

Do you like drugs? Well, me too. He's all into that psychedelic place. Takes rooms and let's fucking till the morning. Break it down Shit. Let's take ecstasy all he's into all that shit. We were in college.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I read a story that there was a woman who she came up to him and told him that she was a sexuality major or something like that, and Okay, or, and. And he like apparently she claimed that he Proceeded to immediately like try to pull her breasts out, or something like that, or like, just kind of like I saw her. Oh, he didn't, he was like, oh, like that was the invite.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was cute.

Speaker 2:

Yeah it's all my major was sexual.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's crazy so just because that story. Well, have you heard of that white, the white dude? They made a whole documentary about it.

Speaker 2:

He.

Speaker 3:

I forgot his name. He's got. He's got a real white name.

Speaker 1:

Jeffrey, doctor hunter or something but he's.

Speaker 3:

I don't know what his name is, but he's a. He played the Winklevoss twins in the social network. Oh, what's his name? He's been on a lot of like, kind of like what the hell he do? Oh shit he. He was into some BDSM shit and to the point where, like he was in like he. You got to read some of the stuff like he liked being embarrassed. That should get mad different Like he would like the messages that they, the women, leaked were about like they involved cannibal oh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like he won army hammer.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Is it army hammer?

Speaker 2:

Literally insane. Josh Pence, that is the most. That's not a white name, that's American ass name. Oh, army hammer.

Speaker 3:

It was USA.

Speaker 1:

They didn't find DNA, they found all right and then um the last point, the last bullet point we don't have to spend a lot of time on this because it's just, I just want to get Charles quick, like 42nd, natural, authentic response to this foot locker, the shoe store that we have known To, that we grew up with that we have gotten like all of our kicks. Yeah, their shares have all work, damn Wait but don't footlocker and champs?

Speaker 2:

aren't they part of same company? Okay that's what action.

Speaker 1:

So, according to Forbes, shoe retail footlocker has a sizable share decline in quarter to the retail's shares dropped by a whopping 33% their total sales on dirt. I'm sorry their total sales only dropped by 9.9%.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's not so, but I mean they're not Just not yet be downsizing, though, yeah look it's, it's leading to downsizing.

Speaker 2:

We've seen online now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, and there's so many different, like third-party shoe.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to go in it to a brick and mortar shoe store ever again if you don't want to write exactly like they got a what?

Speaker 1:

was it goat, so they got go. Now they got.

Speaker 3:

Sneakers they got all there's so many everybody everybody wants like the exclusive Shits though, right, yeah, you probably gonna go through either the sneakers app or try to find like a reseller.

Speaker 1:

In the bots are killing the shoe industry to buy, buying up all the shoes and then flipping them and for three times the retail's retail.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, it was room before that.

Speaker 1:

I heard about that Miguel thing. Right, I mean or not Miguel Uh?

Speaker 3:

we do me meal, me meal. How he went to that shoe convention last week and he was oh yeah, and the guy tried to sell him at a two-hour price.

Speaker 1:

It's a hundred dollar, a hundred twenty dollar price difference and he's big male like nigga.

Speaker 3:

He tried to make too big of a deal right, I didn't, I didn't like that.

Speaker 1:

I'm like, dude, you are in, you're in cahoots with fucking the owner of the Patriots and JZ, you're part of rock nation. You mean to tell?

Speaker 2:

me that he repeated a party right 120, a daddy a hundred twenty dollars.

Speaker 1:

Like price difference is really sending you up the the rail like come on, man, anyways about the principalities.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm saying I dig it.

Speaker 1:

It's about the principal right. All right, let's get in the highlight topic.

Speaker 2:

Oh.

Speaker 1:

Shit, where's the? Okay, sorry for the delay, all right, so since we kind of let's go back into what the the fitness realm right, fitness and nutrition. I just had a couple other questions that I wanted to ask you. So Can a person?

Speaker 2:

trying to get a free like a fitness plan and like I do, I have a gym, I'll eat plan.

Speaker 1:

I didn't show you in in the house tour.

Speaker 3:

You're home. Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it was impressive.

Speaker 1:

Actually, one of your friars man put me on game. I went to his. He was one of the first people to get a house out here in manual. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw his, his, his garage turn gym and I was.

Speaker 3:

I was like, yep, I'm gonna go that one year in there Yep.

Speaker 1:

Well, like I have like little.

Speaker 3:

One-by-one mirrors. I just put them together. Yeah, get you, get you. Get you like, like, get a wall, or at least a portion of a wall, where it's just completely mirrors. Yeah, your work, I was gonna change. Oh, I know I'm very. I'm very like Bro, I do too, I like when you get a good pump like you're like oh hell, yeah, I'm coming back tomorrow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but because like I'm like, alright, I'll put like this in the past I've not looked myself, looked at myself in the mirror because I didn't like what I was seeing right, and I would hold off until, like the two, three week mark and then I will look you would see some difference, or yeah, because I'm not that I'll put. I'll be honest, right like transparent JT right now. I don't like the before and after pics. I've never been the type to do that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I, I don't like the journey. I appreciate the journey, but I don't like the journey.

Speaker 2:

I like to just see the results at the end, Right but I don't want to see the before.

Speaker 3:

I'm a little ashamed if if that makes, even, it makes you, don't I?

Speaker 1:

don't want to see myself in a bad light. I'm really hard on myself too, do you think?

Speaker 3:

do you think that's uh, in in a in one sense or another, maybe a limiter? I'm yeah, oh yeah, absolutely cuz. Do you know? You know, don I want you to expound a little bit more. We know you know dawn she's, uh, she's way in this, I think she's. She's my sister's class, so she's like five years younger to me, okay, but uh, she went to.

Speaker 1:

UT Okay and she already graduated.

Speaker 2:

There's no way I would ever know who this person is, but well, she.

Speaker 3:

She would go viral on the internet because she would post a lot of bikini pics and she was, you know, the fair. It's not even unfair to say she was very much overweight like extremely, yeah, I mean and but. But you couldn't help it. Admire it because Out of out of through all the hate, like she was continuing to post, cuz she like yeah, she, she learned.

Speaker 1:

She's like okay, watch this.

Speaker 3:

There's a lot of like don't get me wrong. I don't think it's okay to like I don't know, like I don't think. I don't think it's okay to promote unhealthy habits, but I don't think she was doing that it's but it's also important to love yourself. It's important to learn to like, appreciate, like, where you currently are, and only at that point Can you like, actually like, have the, the energy and the, the motivation to actually.

Speaker 1:

We'll somewhere.

Speaker 3:

I understand she's because she if, if, dude. Oh, I'm gonna pull up on Instagram while you do that.

Speaker 1:

It's yes and no. For me, yes as in like. It does limit me because I know that if I saw myself Constantly in the in the matter that I don't like, I don't want to be in that, I'm gonna be like alright, cool, I'm nothing but celery and Salads forward for like the next three weeks.

Speaker 2:

Oh wow, what a huge.

Speaker 3:

No, no, it's like she, she motivates me like yeah, honestly, and she's like yeah, her whole, her whole page is about like.

Speaker 1:

Lizzo.

Speaker 3:

She's doing a good job transforming other people, but I must say on the left home girl look just as confident and just exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah but she was then too and that's why I said, that's why I asked earlier Like do you think genetics and like genes and character traits have a lot to do with how fast you're going to achieve your goals? Because she might be the most confident. It looked like no matter if she had 500 pounds on her versus 160 pounds. She would always had that confidence about her.

Speaker 2:

That was the most, in fact, that she had the super power. She had the way exactly Love to that point that she wanted to but I think it's a superpower, have been genetically predispositioned to be larger.

Speaker 1:

I'll use myself for example. I like, and this isn't true, but I'm just giving myself, like me comparison. In comparison to her, she's born with a stronger willpower than what I have, even though she's out more out of shape.

Speaker 2:

What are you trying to say? Do you know? I don't think I said. I'm saying that when you talk about genetic predisposition, I'm saying she could been born with a genetic predisposition to being a larger woman and her love for her self, her affinity for who she is now and where she wants to be which can also be a genetic drive To where she, that was her driver, like she didn't, she didn't like. I know I does that make sense. I know it does make sense.

Speaker 1:

I'm not talking about born. I'm saying that, in addition to that real to, in addition to that, to that Genetic predisposition, she can also have another one. I mean, yeah, another trait.

Speaker 3:

That's what I'm talking about, though and a lot of bodybuilders right, we'll have kind of what you're talking about and they, even though they might have a an outwardly impressive physique or a genetic predisposition to yes, to their body responding well to trauma, because that's all lived in ways, yeah, yeah. They. They also have I. You see a lot of this in the bodybuilding industry Confidence dysmorphia.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, so listen cuz, cuz, cuz.

Speaker 3:

You know, that's what I have. A lot of. A lot of both men and women it's like okay, well, you know, then this amount of muscle is not enough. Yeah, so this time I'm gonna like, I'm gonna take Enhancements. I'm gonna like a lot of the women have like, and some of the men, to fillers and their face, their lips, like like, so you can a lot of boob jobs with. That also comes from like losing breast.

Speaker 1:

Cuz of the yeah, I'm processing, oh, okay, and just and just building muscle to.

Speaker 3:

I guess that kind of contributes, but like trying yeah but it's just.

Speaker 1:

I guess what I'm trying to say is that, like it's an answer, your question from earlier, right as far as that being a limiting factor of need not looking at myself in the mirror.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

I don't like, and you see what I did there. Do you know who brought it a circle to back back to you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so no, not even Okay.

Speaker 1:

He's he's the villain this season for sure he has been the villain so thus

Speaker 2:

far.

Speaker 1:

But when I'm trying to like, when it comes to looking at myself in the mirror at the beginning, like the before and after, I don't like doing the before for two different reasons. Yes, it is limiting to Limiting me, because I know that if I did look at it that would be motivating for me and I know that I would get right on track and do exactly what I need to do. But I also it doesn't limit me also because I know I'm aware of the work that needs to be done, but I'm also. I also want to enjoy life and I'm okay with it taking longer to get there a hundred percent and the building blocks right. And also I do have Body dysmorphia as well.

Speaker 1:

I do. I do because I used to ask Sam, like, like, the, the roles that the Stereotypical roles of a, of a man and a husband and wife Were are flipped for me and Sam when it comes to like what I would ask him like babe, you think I'm fat yeah and it's even like you're fine like. About that and then I do a workout for like three weeks straight and then I'm like well, now, now, how do you like me now?

Speaker 2:

And then you showing your triceps earlier bro.

Speaker 1:

And well, that's, that's one of my best features. It much is my arms, and I like showing those off. Because, like I'm proportionally fit, and that's my goal, right as far as like my physical aesthetic, I want to just look like a sizeable, mannequin size. I just want to look good when I take my shirt off, like all around.

Speaker 1:

I want to look like Daniel right, and so that's one of the reason why I wanted him on the show was to kind of like no, not, not necessarily gave Danny no, but I wanted him to speak, more so on what he's witnessed as a personal trainer since he's been in that he's been certified in that right and also to kind of like Unpack and and and uncrack the myths right, I think.

Speaker 3:

I think a big part of like what you're talking about is bringing up again is Understanding and getting comfortable with the concept of duality. Okay, and here's why I say that is because, even though you don't like you know you're before pictures, or your starting point. You literally cannot appreciate the next point without it.

Speaker 2:

No, if you, what's your point of reference?

Speaker 3:

Exactly exactly like, like, let's say like, if, if, everything, like if all you saw was like black, like the whole. Nothing, you all your vision was just black, right I. That's the only way I can explain it right now, because you actually have seen something else than black right Black would not exist, because if everything is black, then nothing is you know I'm saying yeah, there's no, yeah.

Speaker 2:

There's no.

Speaker 3:

There's no there's no yin and yang. There's no positive.

Speaker 2:

There's no one except. All you know is this if there's yes.

Speaker 3:

You know, I mean versus, like existence, versus non-existence. So it's like um, yeah, understanding, like okay, I Don't like this. Yet I appreciate the fact that I don't like it.

Speaker 2:

It's okay, I like it.

Speaker 3:

That's, that's how, that's what's gonna.

Speaker 1:

I like to get into liking it. You know how do I make sure, what do I need to do to make sure I don't look like this moving forward in the future. Cool Um, tell us a myth about nutrition that we wouldn't know about hmm Well, it was kind of already brought up earlier today.

Speaker 3:

And that's intermittent fasting.

Speaker 2:

Oh, yeah, when I said that you, you your eyebrows raised up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, yeah, no, that's that's like, especially for I Don't know, I think men, because it's it has a big impact on our what's called HGH, human growth hormone production, which is influences testosterone production. It's like an anti-aging serum, if you will. Yeah, but ultimately the problem with, like, the food that we're eating, right, it's so, for lack of a better term, simple, right, your body is not really working to break it down. It's a lot of heavy and sugar. Yeah, simple carbs. Right, it makes us Insulin.

Speaker 1:

Insensitive yeah right.

Speaker 3:

So, like our body, when you eat white bread, when you eat a highly processed foods, sugars, your insulin just spikes and then goes down versus, like you know vegetables, sweet potatoes, like you know, healthy cuts of meat versus like processed meats, essentially the checkpoints, versus, like the zero to a hundred exactly. Then then your insulin level, like it it'll it'll kind of stay steady right now the way to kind of balance that out is by literally Try going extended period of time without you like. Just goes 16 hours, eight of those. You sleep anyway, right?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then eight hours of like feeding, and that'll do much more than like any kind of supplement. Now obviously, at the end of the day right, which are if it's whether it's weight loss or weight gain, it's all math right.

Speaker 1:

So your body, your body like real estate right.

Speaker 3:

Your body, your body burns calories right. In order to survive, to pump blood throughout your body, to digest food, to even to go To sleep, your body has to burn something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, to recover.

Speaker 3:

So the the that's called your total Daily energy expenditure TD EE a lot of letters.

Speaker 3:

Okay, let's just say, let's just say that's just, that's just your total expenditure, right, boom, yeah, all right. How many calories you're burning today, just to just to exist? Then you factor in how many calories you're burning why you work out, right, and then you add the calories that, if you work out, add the calories that you eat, right. So if your body burns two thousand calories a day, you eat twenty five hundred. You're in a glory, some surplus the more you do that consistently. Yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, yeah, if you're in the negative, you're gonna lose weight and it's just, that's just, that's just, that's yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 2:

Okay what if you are genetically pretty? Sorry I gotta get this off though and that's great. We're genetically predisposed to Like being skinny bro. I have not been able to put on weight doing audit, Cholaric well, your mouth is all right.

Speaker 3:

You have to count it. You have to count it to know for sure, because, just like I said earlier, right, and he like this. Not as fast metabolism now like it's like Having a fast metabolism is a real thing, but in order to like, actually see, like okay, how much am I eating, how much is that worth?

Speaker 1:

on a good or standpoint.

Speaker 3:

And then, how much am I burning? Yeah, that's how you're gonna figure out. Okay, like this is how much I need to eat if I want to gain weight.

Speaker 1:

He doesn't eat enough, and I know people that are thinner than him and he doesn't eat enough Consistently throughout the day.

Speaker 3:

That was a guy that was thinner than him.

Speaker 1:

And yeah he was. He had spaghetti. He got sick of it. Yeah, he was. He literally physically got. I had a home he was like I got to keep going, though, so he took two days off, and then he went back to just carbon it up and and eating steaks and and meats.

Speaker 2:

It's ridiculous chicken breasts huge on a game way. Yeah, yeah, well, because I was thinner than Dino. And then he now looks like you. He's like yo, you can, you can get it, but you got to eat Like you gotta you gotta work out to me sounded no, I would. It's color Nozzie a league. He was too much was just like.

Speaker 3:

It's just like trying to like increase your water intake Right like at first. You're like, okay, you might have to set a timer for every. Yeah, can you put this jug in front of the camera so that people that are watching?

Speaker 1:

can see how much water you're taking and it so, far listeners that aren't watching. So he he has a huge jug at how many, how many gallons is this?

Speaker 3:

one gallon is one gallon and on it.

Speaker 1:

It's two different measurements. There. There's a drop that has seven am, nine am, all the way to nine pm, when he's expected to start and finish the water. And then on this on the right side, it has like the milliliters and the ounces. Yep as far as tracking how much he's drinking at different times of the day, and so go. Sorry to interrupt, but I just feel like that, that you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, water intake, because what you did say is like Increasing your water a hundred percent, if you're, if you're wanting to drink more water, but you're only drinking water when you're thirsty, then you're never gonna drink more water. Yeah well, yeah, you know, I'm saying that's what is it, he said.

Speaker 2:

He said, homie, you gotta eat when you're not hungry a hundred percent.

Speaker 3:

That made me like I'm trying to make it. What makes it?

Speaker 2:

I've had my stomach be so full that it fuckers gonna pop.

Speaker 3:

Well, what'll increase your appetite for sure is Resistance training. Okay, so you got it, you got if you're yeah, if you're, if you're which, if you're running fast or if you're lifting weights or even just moving your body weight more than what is, it's normal or what it's used to it's going to demand, yeah, more energy after a while.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's, that is correct.

Speaker 2:

I felt that as well so.

Speaker 1:

I instrument. I do intermittent fasting Currently. Right now, I bought a whole Lifetime subscription for this app to help hold hold. Help hold me accountable, right, and I do the 16, 8. Yeah, that's the best one ratio, right, and it's realistic too, like it's like like one the word when I'm on the verge of like, oh my gosh, I can't take it anymore, I need to eat something. It's this time for me to eat right and you a miss us something earlier.

Speaker 1:

We already sleep anywhere from six or supposed to sleep six to eight hours a day. Yes, let's not cover a good exactly, and I've learned and I've heard through the grapevine that Grapevine is a grapevine or grape. It's great grape, grapevine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That?

Speaker 2:

no, that's why I should, if you if you stop eating three hours before.

Speaker 1:

The key is to stop eating three hours before you go to bed, right. Yeah, yeah cuz so three plus eight and that's a shit 11 right. Why can't we? Why we struggle with doing math?

Speaker 3:

right on the spot.

Speaker 1:

So that's 11 and then basically you're all that five hours left. If you wake up like at six o'clock, then you got plus five. You can eat at 11. So fine, away and I work out in the morning. I usually I don't break fast like one, Realistically oh, but it sucks for somebody like you because you love breakfast, right, so somebody like you would would start fasting like at 5 pm, so that you can eat like around that eight to am Time frame.

Speaker 1:

So me, I despise breakfast. I Enjoy lunch and dinner, yeah, and so admit, oh, really, you love breakfast. Wait.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you want to know what I eat for breakfast, what I eat. Six eggs, fuck dude. Three, three packets of all eggs are good Over easy over, easy over.

Speaker 2:

You try to give me the fucking buzzer.

Speaker 3:

Some people do it for convenience, though they don't want to sit there and cook it, so I get that there's some science out there.

Speaker 1:

Try to play me there's like cooking the white you never saw fucking rocky.

Speaker 2:

I mean he cracked six of the bitches, he swallowed 20. Yeah, he swallowed 20 eggs. I mean.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, dan, you were saying something. I was trying to make a point.

Speaker 3:

So you eat six eggs. Six eggs, three packets of oatmeal, four pieces of bacon, which I don't do, no more, and then you're a whole avocado.

Speaker 2:

Place the bacon with a different protein or you don't eat pork.

Speaker 3:

No, I just. I was not even poor. It's just that it's just bacon.

Speaker 1:

You do a hang around a lot of Africans and Muslims, all the Muslims and the Africans out there man, that's just like such a because it was a joke, because he don't eat. He said that he don't. He cut bacon out, but I we Immediately asked okay, you cut pork out or you just cut bacon, specifically Because majority of Africans are not sure okay, all right. Well then, Okay, what we can do.

Speaker 1:

A survey after this no, no, no, I mean, we can survey all of our African friends and do a poll, just like, oh, they do in these articles most 16% out of people that we survey said that they don't like you have to be really specific, cuz cuz I could see.

Speaker 2:

I could see what part of Africa I could see you.

Speaker 3:

You say, like actual Africans. I could see that, but Americanized.

Speaker 2:

Africans most my friends what I would say.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and they're mostly. They're mostly like Christian in them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I almost said an MF for me, I was talking about Africans Africans. Okay, yeah, that makes sense. Well, yeah, yeah, african, fast that's constant that. What's the biggest? What's the biggest organized? What's the most Practiced organized religion right now?

Speaker 1:

We're not gonna get it Islam kid Islam you don't remember that scene from?

Speaker 3:

super bad Mohammed.

Speaker 1:

Most common they riddle me this, daniel so. Can a person written? This is going to speak directly to a Question that I really personally want to know, but I think our listeners that are what's the most of my meal. I want to know can a person really be in shape and get in shape if they drink on the weekends? Absolutely, how? Now what? What would they have to do, according to the formula, the math formula of caloric intake, working out and then fasting? My thing, oh, and nutrition, I guess now there may be.

Speaker 3:

If, if I, I would advise that maybe for the first, like four to six weeks, maybe do no drinking at all, just cuz if you're, if you're, if your body's working on muscle repair, trying to filter out a poison is is gonna take a lot, it's gonna. It's gonna basically like say, okay, we're putting this on the back burner and prioritizing like working this liver to get this shit out of here. That's.

Speaker 2:

That's how bad alcohol is just maybe that's why I got rhabdo dialysis when I was trying to gain weight. They thought cuz I was drinking like damn.

Speaker 1:

I'm not gonna lie. I think that's what's holding me back like the number one thing. Now I can let go of sweets, like in a heartbeat, right, but I like. Drinking is associated with social events and. I'm a very so I'm a social light right.

Speaker 3:

It's why we have this podcast right like I love interacting and engaging with humans and what we're doing right now we're drinking, so no, no if you could do, if you could limit it to like and this is tough, but I would say like, start it's all about sad six weeks, everything's relative right. So let's say, if you started with like okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna dwindle my drinking until I reach a certain point and then resume it. That's why I said the weekends, do the weekends. You could say like okay, I'm gonna start with like okay, friday, saturday, I'm gonna have two vodka waters and that's it.

Speaker 2:

I must say, you got it actually cuz like if you say just weekends, but then weekends you can hammer, you smash it out you got you have 10 shots a day.

Speaker 3:

But there's is so many different factors, because if you are, if, let's say, if somebody is say say well, I, just drinking brings me so much Fulfillment in my social environment right.

Speaker 3:

It's possible to where you you attribute it to like I don't know what your enjoyment of life or just your ability to like Accomplish your other goals or just be in a mental state that you want to be in right. Let's say you were to say like, okay, I'm not gonna give up drinking, but Goddamn it, I'm not gonna. It's not gonna be a single night why don't get under eight hours of sleep. And I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna fuck up on my meal plan, not once you know I'm saying yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna clean up these other areas gonna be so tight to where I can't drink, fuck yeah, you could do it.

Speaker 2:

I mean like so it's just some level of discipline there's.

Speaker 3:

so many different factors that, when it comes to fitness right, that like, as long as, as long as you are like serious about like whatever it is the end goal is, you can do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think what I have to do is just literally look at alcohol as a poison to my body.

Speaker 3:

Every time that I do it.

Speaker 1:

I mean, yeah, like, but I need to do it more so as like figuratively, for our some Process is still worth it, though. No, like, like I need. I need to get to the point where I'm saying no, like I Cannot drink this because it's literally going to cut my legs off.

Speaker 3:

I mean there's, there's so many, there's so much research, that's how dramatic I gotta be about. Effect on on brain chemistry and your cognitive ability, like later on in life. Fuck like.

Speaker 1:

I'm stopping drinking tonight. I Put like this I would have to be so dramatic to where I'm like looking at alcohols. Every time I take a sip it's etching off a day.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're not my life Exactly. Well, we die every day, though.

Speaker 1:

We wake up and die.

Speaker 3:

That's why that's that's the tough part about it.

Speaker 2:

Everything is a moderation like you can work out every day and still be dead before your partner, who didn't do shit but eat, drink Kool-Aid and eat fried chicken.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's what really fucks me up versus people that have been eating fried chicken, jack in the box and drinking at 40s and all their whole life, and they lived to 95. Yeah and then somebody would literally freaking you know, can folk in the silk right now?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I live in all your people and they ain't doing shit with bullshit.

Speaker 1:

That's genetic predisposition right there.

Speaker 2:

They work factory jobs, which keeps them Physically fit the average.

Speaker 1:

They working out by just thinking they just like I anyways. Why, daniel, did you have a point you were saying I mean, I know no no, ultimately like yeah.

Speaker 3:

There's just so many different factors, bro, and if the like the most questions I get people are looking for like the black and white, hey, yeah do do all of this and do none of this. Like you know what I mean. Like that's what they want is here. Just they want a very binary but everybody's like so different, everybody's bodies, the very different on how they react to certain foods, certain habits.

Speaker 2:

So fitness is a lot of like you know science and the fact that it's just trial error, observation patients would you say it requires patience, because I feel like Knowing that we live in a society Like instant gratification instant gratification.

Speaker 2:

Just, I mean that is that is the current we traffic and current like in social currency, like in social capital. But everybody needs give me the right now, mm-hmm. So I feel like a lot of a lot of people's probably you know, apprehension with that jumping in and I mean help myself include and I just people like me is like man it's. I happened to really enjoy the journey. Like I tell him all the time we got to celebrate the small victories. We can't just be so hyper focused on the goal that we don't Celebrate the journey and getting there. I think there's so much good in in that journey but I mean to his point that everybody really is that's why.

Speaker 3:

That's why I feel like your, your goals should be Process-oriented, right? So instead of like, like, let's say, if your ultimate goal is to like, okay.

Speaker 1:

Oh, like, all have multiple objectives and checkpoints. Checkpoints is a big part, like like, if you like, okay.

Speaker 3:

You want to be at a certain weight, or if you said, oh, I want to like look a certain way right, yeah yeah, yeah. The most immediate goal is like okay, I want to go to the gym three times this week, just go, even if, even if half the time you're on your phone. Yeah, just there in this is something more than what you were doing last week prior, you know what I mean, so like.

Speaker 1:

Not if you're in your head and you're like man. What the fuck am I doing?

Speaker 3:

Am I serious?

Speaker 1:

That's that's like yeah, but that's gonna motivate me to. That's not gonna be motivating for me to come back. I'm gonna be discouraged and now I'm never. I'm not going back. Next time. I'm gonna like take two days off because I know.

Speaker 2:

Well, but you chose that outlook, though like what he's saying is like you being there is a dub.

Speaker 1:

How do we get to that point where we don't choose that outlook therapy? Yeah, I got my first appointment September 6 ready for it.

Speaker 3:

Sorry again, fuck, I cut you off, daniel and and but this is good stuff because I feel like like everything that you're talking about is actual relatable Perspective. You know what I mean and like I give you that for show. I don't know, even like my stuff may not be about fitness, but there's a lot of things that everybody experiences, like a sense of Hopelessness or helplessness, like damn, no matter what. There's nothing I can change about, like wherever this is going like yeah outcome.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, a lot of people that's. You know that could be drugs, alcohol, gambling, sex okay you know promiscuity.

Speaker 1:

When do you think it's the best time to work out? Morning, afternoon work.

Speaker 3:

For me, For me it's in the morning. Absolutely, sam here, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, because it's like 5 am, 6 am, club. Don't leave the ooh, I'm not.

Speaker 3:

I'm not that early. I could like if I'm, I know what I do.

Speaker 2:

Earlier I was a nighttime guy, but I'm a night owl like well it for, like my natural Psychiatrism, is definitely a hundred percent for me.

Speaker 3:

Generally speaking for me, like the closer I get into the night, the more I'm like gonna want to like, especially after work. I'm gonna want to chill, I'm gonna want to like have one on my own time, whether that's like some anime, you know, I mean yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I just don't wake up and I'm ready to watch a show or play a video game and stuff. I got to be in the mood for that.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. I'm never in the mood to work out, but at least I'm not gonna shit out first thing in the morning and you'd be surprised on how much it motivates you.

Speaker 2:

Like, even even like the concept of doing anything, I try your day about completing a task, whether that's like making your, that's real Yo there's, there's scientific, there's scientific evidence about like that's a meme related big on that you not making the bed. It's like what's going on? I mean it could literally be anything, yeah that's right.

Speaker 3:

Like, like okay. I'm bleeding something a hundred percent like, let's say like okay, like there's a lot of signs that says okay. Within the first hour of you waking up, try to get eight ounces of water or any kind of fluid, really at least be water, be the first thing you put in your body, 100%, 100%.

Speaker 3:

And so let's just say like okay, I just want to drink a glass of water in the morning, every morning. Or I want to take five minutes to like literally do nothing but like meditate. Yeah, spend some time with yourself being able to say okay, I did that. Yeah, it starts your day off.

Speaker 1:

So that's what, isaiah from two episodes ago had talked about that's real, saying that when he's in the gym he takes away. Let me preface it by saying that he's. He was our real estate expert that we had. But he was saying that whenever he's at the gym he doesn't listen to any music. He doesn't look at anybody, he doesn't even. He turns his phone off and and he just focuses solely on the workout, and that's meditate he's doing yeah, man it yeah.

Speaker 3:

Meditation. That's the same concept as like traditional meditating, where the only thing you're focused on is like breathing breathing yeah, and just being.

Speaker 1:

I got it. I got a shout out Apple fitness, and this isn't necessarily an ad but I Want to shout them out because like that's yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's helped me like I never meditated before. I started looking at those sessions Like film I. I used to be the physical trainer or the fitness trainer in the Air Force for my squadron, right, and there were things that I didn't even necessarily know. I just told them like how to work out and and what nutrition plan they need, that they that they needed to follow and them motherfuckers was Way out of shape compared to, like, these people that are out here in the real world, right, and so I know it's kind of ironic.

Speaker 1:

Like you know fat people in the military.

Speaker 2:

No no, I didn't say that. I've seen fat ass cops and fat ass everything.

Speaker 1:

What I'm saying is that um Fuck, what's that talking about? I don't know idea. All right, anyways, um what oh? I did have a working out in the morning essentially like Will determine the rest of your day. I feel like you can have the shittiest day, but at least you completed a work.

Speaker 2:

I can see it, I have a longer our way to do my workout.

Speaker 3:

Try, the more likely I'm gonna find an excuse not to go. Yeah, like yes exactly.

Speaker 1:

Come on, man. Yes, because when I don't work out, bro, I feel terrible. I feel like that I cheated myself. I cheated on myself. Yeah, cuz I don't work out to, like you know, something On the day that I'm feeling under the, on the day that I feel like I'm supposed to work out.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you'll get to like eight, nine o'clock and you like I'm gonna have a shitty workout anyway, or it's gonna take too long, or like I like I'll just start first tomorrow and then now. You know, you know, you and your anti cycle now.

Speaker 1:

I despise back day.

Speaker 3:

Oh man, you gotta fall in love with it. I despise.

Speaker 1:

You know how everybody despises leg day, no, back day. I hate it, but I but I fall in love and any back day always fell on a Tuesday. For me, uh-huh, and it was in. Tuesdays were the shittiest days, because that was the day that I had my 101 with my manager and it was, fucking, the first meeting early in the morning at 8 am. That meant that I had to wake up at like 4 30 and be in the in my gym at by like 5 30. You know what I mean? And oh my gosh, it was.

Speaker 1:

It was dreadful but now that I don't have to meet with her anymore. I got a new manager, yeah, but what I'm saying is Daniel has a point. You got to fall in love with a thing that drives you up the wall the most and drives you crazy, because once you fall in love with that, everything becomes easier. I look forward to the arm days because I love how my arms look and the chest.

Speaker 3:

I would. I would take arms out if I was you. Why? Cuz it's like you're gonna touch some of that in your chest. Yes, yes, yes, so we're actually gonna naturally hit triceps by this pushing motion. We're back with a pulling motion. You're gonna naturally hit a little bit of biceps like I never do. I never have dead days dedicated to just arms, just isolating you, but I do.

Speaker 1:

You can't like, but like what I said that's just me.

Speaker 3:

You know, I'm saying like if I'm saying if you wanted to like, well around it. It's like say like you wanted to conserve as much as your time, like as possible and like okay, I want to. You know, try to make sure I'm here maximize, I guess your efficiency.

Speaker 3:

But, like you know, it's shit. If I'm, if I'm, if I'm having like kind of like a half week or whatever and I'm like shit, I want to hit you know chest and back more than I have on my program because you know that's gonna motivate me, then I'm gonna do that.

Speaker 1:

All right, so walk me through this. Then if I work out five days a week, mm-hmm. Monday's dedicated to chest day.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Tuesdays back. Okay, technical Wednesday are arms, thursday shoulders. Your caloric five day no, no, no, no, five Friday. Friday Friday is legs. If I take out arms, what do I replace that with what I would?

Speaker 3:

do out of those five what I would do.

Speaker 2:

I'm totally trying to free work, our routine out of you. But I tell you already no, it's easy you could do.

Speaker 3:

You could find this on Google. What I would do, is you? Okay, let me give you the background information. Okay, for muscle growth, to optimize muscle growth, you want to hit at least Each one, two to three times a week, I would say, or every like few days, I would say twice a week. So if I was you, here's my, here's my split, right. So Monday I start, I start with legs right and then I go Chest and shoulders, because those are both.

Speaker 3:

I come on come on like push motions, right yeah, and then I do back, which is pull, and I repeat so then, and then I rest Sunday. So that's a six day, all right, now, if I'm, if I want to narrow to five, I would just do legs, chest, back legs, and then Friday, just do all of her. Yeah so chest shoulders and back.

Speaker 1:

I used to do that and I look completely different than what I look right now I like you trying to like a two day three. I I know a no way you just got to do full body every time.

Speaker 3:

A no way Still you can still build muscle that way, okay. No, don't do two of the two days is a waste of time, I think I.

Speaker 1:

Just right there. But look, listen, well we. What we haven't necessarily been speaking about is the different types of workouts in the categories of it, right, mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

I like the people who like to work out at night too. Yeah, I'm sleeping on the fuck y'all.

Speaker 1:

Morning is where it's at because I'm the bird gets the worm, nigga.

Speaker 2:

I get mad for filming there's so working out when my kids asleep, like now, is my time to kill I take my shower and I'm good to go. Now I can sit on a, watch a couple episodes of the anime and fall asleep like it.

Speaker 3:

So with everything with, like fitness or health, all right. There's never like a clear like oh, you should always do this. It's always gonna depend on what your goals are. Well, yeah, okay, let's say if you're, let's say, if your goals are more to like tone, shred, lose weight. Yeah it might make more sense to work out in the fastest date If you're, if your goals are to like actually grow stronger not necessarily like growing your muscles, yeah, but to actually be able to lift me more weight, yeah you might want to work out in the fed state, because now your body has more energy to expend.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, right, so that's that.

Speaker 2:

That's the like everything's gonna dip which is where I was cuz like. I need more strength. I need to be able to like. I need life. Fuck how look my. I'm Mary, I got kids. I need to be able to lift these niggas out of a hurricane. Yeah, I wanted with physical strength.

Speaker 1:

What I was saying earlier was um, but that makes sense, the different. Yeah, sorry, you know. Okay, all right, cool, so like what? Um, so the, the regiment that Daniel was talking about earlier, um, that's what I did when I was in college and I look completely different than what I look now.

Speaker 3:

Now I spent about an hour 15 each workout session Mm-hmm different um and I.

Speaker 1:

I incorporate cardio hit and then uh I an ab segment and then, the cool down, yes, and I lift so five different components, and so that's why I've broken out my like the weightlifting portion of my day. I only dedicate 20 minutes to that, and then the rest is dedicated to those other four categories.

Speaker 3:

I mean that's all good stuff, though, Like you can't go wrong with that as long as it's consistent. Now I will say if are you doing abs to have a stronger core or to try to get abs Because you don't need to do a single crunch, if you wanna do it, if you wanna get abs.

Speaker 1:

No, the abs is tied to nutrition, right? Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, 100% yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

Look, and I love that we're having this back and forth, that dialogue, because we're talking about things.

Speaker 2:

I call it cap. I call it cap. We're talking about things. He want abs, he want a four pack? No, I do, but for our listeners they might not necessarily.

Speaker 1:

There is no way that all of our listeners knew in order to get abs. I need to focus more on nutrition versus actual core work, that's what they need to know here. Because what Daniel just said you don't have to do a single sit up in order to get abs. It's more associated with the nutrition. That's what you're gonna say.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, he did say that you ain't been listening. I was gonna sign that for sure.

Speaker 3:

I literally never do any form of abs. Now I still get core work by doing compound lifts such as like back squat or dead lift because it requires my boy to be engaged, but I'm not actually setting side. I mean, don't get me wrong, it would probably benefit me to do some. What I'm saying is you don't need to do them in order to have that. To have a six pack.

Speaker 1:

And what I'm picking up on also from everything that Daniel's been saying is that it's all, everything is tied together. So when he was saying earlier like dude, you don't even have to dedicate a day to your arms, because you're already gonna get that from chest and back day and then with your legs, if you're already doing HIIT in cardio, you don't necessarily need a leg day either, and that's why I kinda well okay, so what is the strongest muscle in our body?

Speaker 3:

It's for sure. Legs.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, boom. Your legs are perfect, boom, listen to us. If you didn't know that before, you know now. You need multiple dedicated leg days. What? Throughout the week?

Speaker 3:

Or I mean, think about it. Anything you're gonna, you're never gonna. Are you ever gonna be in a situation physically, where you're gonna have to do something from a seated?

Speaker 2:

position and you don't need them.

Speaker 1:

Did you know that 90% of people over 40 in America can't sprint?

Speaker 2:

That's crazy. Wait, that's wild. 40% of people in America over 40.

Speaker 1:

Oh, no, no, no, over 90%.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, yeah, 90% of people in America over 40 cannot sprint.

Speaker 1:

Cannot sprint. I mean, yeah, did you just see that video of that lady that was clearing out her back seat and she had her infant in the stroller and the stroller started rolling down the hill?

Speaker 3:

She couldn't go good enough. Oh yeah, she failed and she fell, and then the spending guys came and got her.

Speaker 1:

They're heroes, by the way. We should seek those people out and build a statue for them.

Speaker 2:

That's not a surprising, but-.

Speaker 1:

But what I'm saying is why isn't that surprising? Because of our daily regimen. I broke my foot in my 30s playing basketball with my nephew Okay you keep bringing it back to how shitty you are as a Shit what.

Speaker 2:

Nigga what.

Speaker 1:

Kevin Hart is a super fit guy.

Speaker 2:

Kevin Hart's a super fit guy. He's 44 years old and what he just did, he can sprint and he still broke his back and is, in a way, there. He was sprinting with a.

Speaker 1:

NFL athlete. The point is it was too much. No, he can sprint Homies in a wheelchair. You're missing the point. Are you ever in a wheelchair Before that? He's been sprinting daily and then what happened?

Speaker 2:

As of he got over 40, 90%. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for indulging in episode 55. The more out of the message when you're over 40% of the potless pot.

Speaker 1:

There was so much more but condescending D has been detrimental to this.

Speaker 2:

I know, hold on, there's one question. That's one question I wanna ask.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Because it plays. Really, I was waiting until we got to the end, so earlier we was talking about things that we cannot do without.

Speaker 1:

Certain you have until the end of the song to ask your question.

Speaker 2:

You just took half the damn time out by saying that shit, so I'm gonna go double time. So there's certain things like he's like man, but you know not that he's an Alki or anything, but he's like man. I need, I want my alcohol. It's hard for me, but he's like. But if I need it, if it means me being looking the way I wanna look, I can give alcohol up like this In certain things and I use coitus with my wife just cause it's easy.

Speaker 3:

It was right there, but like there's things that I don't wanna give up things we've partaken in together.

Speaker 2:

That. I'm listening, it don't matter, I mean. I mean not to sound crazy, but like there's certain things I'm indulging because Because that makes you feel it's a vice. Are there any vices for you? That, regardless of like oh for sure, Wherever you like, that's something you gotta get into.

Speaker 3:

Like I don't know Like. I enjoy my fair share of THC. I enjoy my fair share of Southern foods, very indulgent, soulful foods, shit Gumbo, fried chicken, all of that shit.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

But it's just understanding. Like okay, if I wanna be able to like enjoy those things for a longer period of time, I also have to do what I need to do on the back end.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a compensate for the-. Yeah, I mean that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Did you wanna talk about your vice? Do you know?

Speaker 2:

I mean, we've spoken about it.

Speaker 1:

We kinda do need to wrap up, by the way, because of timing and because-.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, wrap up, Tizzo. What's your vice?

Speaker 1:

Let's go, no no, no, no, no, no, no, you can go. I'm just saying like, just be mindful of-.

Speaker 2:

And that was it. I mean, I kinda started off with what's your voice? I would say definitely partaking in the herbal essence. I definitely think that one of the things that like man, regardless of if it's something that is gonna be see, it sounds crazy saying that loud Like not harmful to me, but like if nutrition or whatever is not a factor in me partaking, like to your point, compensating on the back end. Yes, absolutely it's gonna be. Things like, bro, it's not healthy necessarily to sit down and watch TV, but there's certain times. I'm gonna take time to just-.

Speaker 1:

I think the weed is taking an effect on how long-. Where did you-?

Speaker 2:

And I'm dancing around it. You just been dancing, bro. I'm trying to think how to say what I wanna say without saying it. Now we starting to see man crazy.

Speaker 1:

Because-. Because I wanna say- you got straight to the point after the weed bro.

Speaker 2:

No, we has nothing to do with it. Literally it's like-.

Speaker 1:

You're talking to somebody who doesn't smoke weed and I've witnessed how concise you were before you smoked. It's not the concise, it's the Versus when we're live and you after the after effect.

Speaker 2:

It's how you were at certain things, without sounding crazy, cause what I was gonna say was-.

Speaker 1:

What effect does it have on you?

Speaker 2:

What do you mean?

Speaker 1:

The weed. Why is it a vice for you?

Speaker 2:

Why did I say weed was a vice? I don't smoke weed.

Speaker 3:

You talk about it. All right, all right, let's move on. No, no, no, no, no. I don't smoke weed James.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, we're moving on to the toes.

Speaker 2:

Just smoke weed James.

Speaker 1:

All right, ladies and gentlemen, that is all that we have for this episode, or thank you for indulging in the conversation.

Speaker 2:

Hey, any final thoughts?

Speaker 1:

Of all the yeah, the final thoughts, Daniel.

Speaker 3:

Um final thoughts.

Speaker 2:

You didn't say your vice is JT, by the way. I'm so dead. I know liquor was one of them.

Speaker 1:

Graphic teas.

Speaker 2:

Oh, shopping, yo, you gotta stop. I'm gonna say it for sale.

Speaker 1:

I am definitely exuding no problem. Stereotypical, negative.

Speaker 2:

Material, bro. He got about four. Every time I come home. He got a new gold chain on his neck.

Speaker 1:

That's different. I did buy multiple chains for particular occasions. I bought shoes for multiple occasions.

Speaker 2:

And you slow down JT.

Speaker 3:

You just gotta work it into where you can get it for free.

Speaker 2:

Now listen, Daniel. Here's a problem.

Speaker 1:

Cause, like with my vices, right or indulging in You're being said and you said as we.

Speaker 2:

But here's the thing, why you no, it's not just we I say like sitting down and binge watching TV, for instance, that's not, that's being said and teared, it's not a healthy thing. But here's the thing working out can offset those things you can't work out and offset your shopping like vices.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I gotta go broke or I gotta be in a position to what, what, what.

Speaker 2:

You gotta offset it. I think you gotta offset it to some capacity.

Speaker 3:

I could use this to tie into a final thought. Taking care of your body like has lasting and rippling effects on the other elements of your life. So if you are practicing healthier habits right and are working out your strength from your, your physical strength bleeds into your mental and emotional strength Come on.

Speaker 2:

That was good. I like how you tied that up. That was, that was.

Speaker 1:

You know that was a bit of gymnastics and he dispelled the shit that, that jab that you were trying to make at me, niggas.

Speaker 3:

So yeah take that take that?

Speaker 1:

How do you not take that he spoke in country? Complete contradiction to what you just?

Speaker 2:

said, I disagree 100%. Whatever, I think what he's saying is you gotta, ladies and gentlemen, let's get into the toast our segment.

Speaker 1:

And we're also incorporating a new, a new tradition with our traditional segment of the toast and we want to do toast and tokens toast as in. We will, of course, cheers to our guests and everything that we've talked about, but also we want to give you a memento AKA a token of your attendance.

Speaker 3:

So thank you so much for being here. I mean, what's my laptop look like?

Speaker 1:

Just a little bit of a of just appreciation for you a good takeaway for you. And, without further ado, behind the letters, can you please? Get the shots the caloric addition that we're gonna have how do? You call it Caloric, and I just found out that that was a word. By the way, a couple of weeks ago. You can use it, but you've been using it, right. Yeah, exactly Like in Spanish.

Speaker 2:

right, you're supposed to practice it a daily right, until it's normal to use it right, which is crazy. This is a tangent kind of but my baby's in what is it called Spanish immersion.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that's awesome, my first grader.

Speaker 1:

And she comes home just like the random Spanish vocab, Like oh yeah, and I was like oh, she knows that word, Can I have my time?

Speaker 2:

again, bro, bro, that's mad, right, that's crazy. What is it?

Speaker 3:

It was a mistake.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what to do with you. All right, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1:

That's his vice. It's host to Daniel. What was my vice?

Speaker 2:

Like that. What do you call that? That's a joke Toast to.

Speaker 3:

Tarzan then Daniel Haskin for joining us.

Speaker 1:

And then toast to you all for listening to us. We appreciate y'all. We hope that y'all enjoyed all the gyms that we've been leaving and the trails. Cheers to y'all, man.

Speaker 2:

Hey, got your chunks on my chocolate head Any holidays coming up.

Speaker 1:

What's today?

Speaker 3:

Labor Day.

Speaker 2:

Oh Labor. Day I got Labor Day.

Speaker 1:

This episode comes out on Labor Day, so we hope y'all enjoyed that. Take the day off if you can, or sometime during the week or later on. I know all of our road warriors and our warehouse workers. Y'all don't necessarily get Labor Day off, but make sure that y'all enjoy that day at some point. Take some time off and take some time for you, and if you can't take some time off, then goddamn it. Cheers to y'all for the fucking grind. What the fuck.

Speaker 1:

And that's all we got, ladies and gentlemen, Follow the partners on all social media platforms, starting with Dino.

Speaker 2:

Hey man, you can find me at the Dixon area T-H-E, underscore D-I-X-O-N-A-R hey.

Speaker 3:

Daniel, hey, tarzan Dan, that's Tarzan. Underscore D-A-N-N.

Speaker 1:

That is two Ns, ladies and gentlemen, tarzan underscore D-A-N-N, and you can find me at.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, I was just kidding.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Hey, merch, coming soon too, bro. Oh yeah, we gotta get some of that yeah, we got you.

Speaker 1:

Come on man.

Speaker 3:

We gotta do the anime crossover for real. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Hey Hook'em horns, baby Football is back. We are gonna get the dub, if we haven't already, by the time this episode comes out.

Speaker 2:

We will know what the verdict is. Hey, we winners regardless.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, Hook'em horns.

Speaker 3:

Ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1:

We love y'all. We thank y'all, man, for sticking with us and more to come, we'll see y'all. Episode 56, all right, oh yeah.

Anime, Fitness, and Daniel Haskins Introduction
Genetics and Habits' Influence on Appetite
Warm-Up and Gradual Progress in Fitness
The Impact of Fitness and Nutrition
The Psychology of Goals and Self-Reflection
The Risk and Idolization of Artists
Miguel's Controversial Performance and Shoe Decline
Body Image and Self-Confidence
Understanding Duality and Nutrition Myths
Drinking Alcohol and Fitness
Small Victories, Morning Workout Importance
Fitness, Nutrition, and Personal Vices
Anime Crossover and Football Update